Infrastructure progress: Paving

As a supplement to the recent post about “Infrastructure Abounds“, I just wanted to put this paving into perspective.

There are approximately 32 linear miles of roads within the city limits of Hoboken. This 0.4 miles of paving they’re doing on 8th and 3rd Streets represents 1.25% of the entire available pavement (or 1/80th). Based on the cost of this project, it’d cost $32 million dollars to re-surface the whole town (a million dollars per mile).

Not saying that every road needs work, but it certainly seems as if most of them do. Potholes, sinkholes, flooding and more. But does a million dollars per mile sound right? Is there anyone familiar with the road re-surfacing industry that would be able to compare that figure to other projects? I do understand that not every section of Hoboken would require new curbing, etc, but maybe now the city should negotiate a long-term contract or discount schedule with a contractor to lock in favorable rates for future work. When you tell that company that they’d have exclusive rights to all upcoming work on the 32 available miles (say for the next 5 years), they’d be more apt give a volume rate. At least that’s how I understand negotiating. However, knowing this city, they probably won’t have such progressive thoughts.

Here’s some large equipment on 8th St. last week.

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10 Comments on "Infrastructure progress: Paving"

wgenese
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[quote comment=”6638″]
I disagree. What kind of car do you drive? Hoboken is horrific. Maybe not compared to the Pulaski Skyway, but still, a town like this shouldn’t have such bumpy roads. It’s ILL![/quote]
Alright, I had a few appointments in Hoboken today. I drove the length of Bloomfield, Garden, Washington and Hudson, all while billing my cilents(kidding). Your right 411, they are pretty f**cked up. I’ve been driving in town for nearly 25 years so I guess I learned to block it out. I don’t know, it still dosen’t bother me though but I stand corrected…

hobojoe
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Poster #1 hit the nail on the head. The primary reason Hoboken’s streets are in such bad shape is because of all the development. I’m not just talking about the large-scale ones – I’m talking about the people who are installing new gas/water/sewer as they add on to / renovate their buildings. Part of the contingency when obtaining a permit to open the street should be to return the street to its previous condition. The “repairs” done to the street after most of these jobs by low-bidding no-name contractors are just plain unacceptable. I have seen contractors dump the fill dirt into the hole without compacting then throw the ashpalt on top of the loose dirt; I have even seen contractors compact the asphalt by driving the front wheels of their pickup truck back & forth over it. Sealing around the patch is nearly unheard of. Improper repairs not only settle unevenly (causing the many bumps and dips in the streets) but they also let water under the pavement – leading to much worse problems especially in the winter.
Someone in city hall is responsible for ensuring the quality of these repairs. Who this person is and why they’re not doing their job is a good question.
Our streets can be in MUCH better shape if we held contractors responsible for their repairs. I believe Jersey City recently enacted a program which penalizes contractors who make substandard repairs. Why can’t we do the same?

Katie_Scarlett
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When are they repaving each street?

krewedetat
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krewedetat

wgenese — Pretty horrific when you consider that apartments around there are going for big bucks: the entire area around the Curling Club and the new buildings uptown west of Clinton (NW Redevelopment zone). Also, downtown Garden St between 3rd and Newark. I could go on. The speed bumps are overkill around there. The potholes do a pretty good job of traffic calming, unless you drive a truck.

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