Connect Cars take up TWO spots!

8/2/2010:

Hertz on Demand privileged parking irks some Hoboken residents

Hoboken411 reader Ryan feels the same pain about driving and parking in Hoboken as the rest of us. But seeing a Hertz on Demand (formerly Hertz Connect) “Corner Car” taking up a regular spot didn’t sit well with him:

“WTF, I know the proverbial broken wheel about parking. But, the cities bright idea to take 42 spots away from everyone for this “connect” idea through Hertz is ridiculous. It’s a great concept but it’s not taking cars off the road and by this picture. It’s even taking away more spots if the “connect” customers are not utilizing the designated spots. I would get a ticket if I used one of those green spots, they should also if they don’t use those green designated spots.

Aggravated resident when I saw this!”

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29 Comments on "Connect Cars take up TWO spots!"

animal_lover
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animal_lover

That’s my point, Zipcars should have the same privileges to nondedicated parking to even the playing field.

matt_72
Member

The Zipcars don’t have stickers b/c they park them in a garage. But the Hertz cars have parking permits because they park them on the streets. If Zipcar wants to come to some sort of arrangement w/ the city to park their cars in designated spots on the street and get a parking permit or to just get a permit for their garage parked cars, then that is Zipcar’s business and it is absolutely their right to negotiate this with the city. But they didn’t do that and nobody has stated they were prevented from having a parking sticker for their vehicles. Lodge a complaint w/ Zipcar where it belongs.[quote comment=”195833″]That’s my point, Zipcars should have the same privileges to nondedicated parking to even the playing field.[/quote]

animal_lover
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animal_lover

It is part of program design to level playing fields. It is the director of transportations job and we are all picking up the slack for him already.[quote comment=”195834″]The Zipcars don’t have stickers b/c they park them in a garage. But the Hertz cars have parking permits because they park them on the streets. If Zipcar wants to come to some sort of arrangement w/ the city to park their cars in designated spots on the street and get a parking permit or to just get a permit for their garage parked cars, then that is Zipcar’s business and it is absolutely their right to negotiate this with the city. But they didn’t do that and nobody has stated they were prevented from having a parking sticker for their vehicles. Lodge a complaint w/ Zipcar where it belongs.

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matt_72
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And if Zipcar wants parking permits for their cars then they can come to some sort of arrangement w/ the city just like Hertz did. It is NOT the city’s responsibility to just hand them out because you don’t like the fact that they don’t have them. I repeat, lodge a complaint with Zipcar. If they think it is important then they can reach out to the city. Personally I suspect they don’t want to deal w/ having permits b/c it maximizes their fleet’s flexibility and ability to redeploy cars or recycle cars w/o having to deal w/ making sure cars in Hoboken have a permit.[quote comment=”195841″]It is part of program design to level playing fields. It is the director of transportations job and we are all picking up the slack for him already.

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Easy-E
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What does that even mean??[quote comment=”195841″]It is part of program design to level playing fields. It is the director of transportations job and we are all picking up the slack for him already.

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lhoward222
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lhoward222

Without commenting on success/lack of success of the program, I find it ironic that the two Connect cars in front of my building are registered in NY (NY plates). No resident in town would be able to get street parking without Hoboken, NJ registration and insurance.

jam981
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jam981

Just an FYI, I live at First and Park and the connect car I used was parked at 2nd and Harrison–a bit of a hike with multiple bags of groceries, etc. It really is unavoidable to not park the connect car anywhere but its designated spot. When I had a car, I was more annoyed with people without permits taking up spaces or those with out of state plates who inexplicably had residential stickers. And just this morning, I saw a car with PA plates that had no resident sticker but the top of a cake box from Carlo’s that said “Employee of” propped up on its driver side dashboard. I bet he or she will be parked there a lot longer than I was parked to drop off my groceries.

Give this program a chance, it really is still very new. I’m sure it’s something they will be evaluating often.

acmill99
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acmill99

jam981 – I don’t think you can get a parking permit with an out of state license plate. I tried about a year ago and was denied. [quote comment=”195395″]Just an FYI, I live at First and Park and the connect car I used was parked at 2nd and Harrison–a bit of a hike with multiple bags of groceries, etc. It really is unavoidable to not park the connect car anywhere but its designated spot. When I had a car, I was more annoyed with people without permits taking up spaces or those with out of state plates who inexplicably had residential stickers. And just this morning, I saw a car with PA plates that had no resident sticker but the top of a cake box from Carlo’s that said “Employee of” propped up on its driver side dashboard. I bet he or she will be parked there a lot longer than I was parked to drop off my groceries. Give this program a chance, it really is still very new. I’m sure it’s something they will be evaluating often.[/quote]

King of Rock
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King of Rock

That’s because you are either not a resident or you are committing insurance fraud. Feel free to put your full name and address in the next response so that you can document your crime if it is insurance fraud. [quote comment=”195853″]jam981 – I don’t think you can get a parking permit with an out of state license plate. I tried about a year ago and was denied.

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jam981
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jam981

Yeah, I know, that’s why I used the word “inexplicably.” I definitely used to see some out-of-state plates with a Hoboken permit every once in a while. Figured they had some kind of connection with the Parking utility. I go back about 10 years in Hoboken so maybe this was when it was a tad more lax. [quote comment=”195853″]jam981 – I don’t think you can get a parking permit with an out of state license plate. I tried about a year ago and was denied.

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animal_lover
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animal_lover

When I rented a zipcar for the day and arrived home late at night I found a spot right in front my home. As I got out the car it occured to me that I should find out if this was legal to park on the street. I was told it was NOT LEGAL that I had to return the zipcar back to its ORIGINAL SPOT. It seems like what’s good for the goose (ZIPCAR) should be good for the gander(HERTZCONNECT). And unless Hertz pays for your tickets this could really boost the cost of a rental.[quote comment=”195395″]Just an FYI, I live at First and Park and the connect car I used was parked at 2nd and Harrison–a bit of a hike with multiple bags of groceries, etc. It really is unavoidable to not park the connect car anywhere but its designated spot. When I had a car, I was more annoyed with people without permits taking up spaces or those with out of state plates who inexplicably had residential stickers. And just this morning, I saw a car with PA plates that had no resident sticker but the top of a cake box from Carlo’s that said “Employee of” propped up on its driver side dashboard. I bet he or she will be parked there a lot longer than I was parked to drop off my groceries. Give this program a chance, it really is still very new. I’m sure it’s something they will be evaluating often.[/quote]

Easy-E
Member

I was a zipcar user for about 5 years. It’s legal for you to park there. Who told you it was “illegal”?

The problem is that you aren’t allowed under the terms of your Zipcar membership to park them just anywhere you want when your booking ends. Zipcar has designated spots that are listed on their website so that people who book them after you can find them. The website doesn’t track the car, and I would bet that their insurance requires them to be parked in designated spots as well.

Go ahead park in front of your house, you’ll be fined by zipcar and have to pay for all the time until it’s returned to where you got it.[quote comment=”195780″]When I rented a zipcar for the day and arrived home late at night I found a spot right in front my home. As I got out the car it occured to me that I should find out if this was legal to park on the street. I was told it was NOT LEGAL that I had to return the zipcar back to its ORIGINAL SPOT. It seems like what’s good for the goose (ZIPCAR) should be good for the gander(HERTZCONNECT). And unless Hertz pays for your tickets this could really boost the cost of a rental.

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animal_lover
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animal_lover

I had paid for the time I just wanted to park it on the street and return it when my time was up the next day. Hoboken PD told me it was illegal to leave the car parked overnight (regardless of my being paid up). Other states I have traveled in do not expect you to return the car to its spot when you are renting for a ful day. Indded this woudl not be feasible if the point of your trip is overnight.[quote comment=”195805″]I was a zipcar user for about 5 years. It’s legal for you to park there. Who told you it was “illegal”?The problem is that you aren’t allowed under the terms of your Zipcar membership to park them just anywhere you want when your booking ends. Zipcar has designated spots that are listed on their website so that people who book them after you can find them. The website doesn’t track the car, and I would bet that their insurance requires them to be parked in designated spots as well.Go ahead park in front of your house, you’ll be fined by zipcar and have to pay for all the time until it’s returned to where you got it.[/quote]

Easy-E
Member

That’s weird, why would it be illegal to park it on the street? According to what law? Maybe it needs to have a residents parking sticker?[quote comment=”195825″]I had paid for the time I just wanted to park it on the street and return it when my time was up the next day. Hoboken PD told me it was illegal to leave the car parked overnight (regardless of my being paid up). Other states I have traveled in do not expect you to return the car to its spot when you are renting for a ful day. Indded this woudl not be feasible if the point of your trip is overnight.

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homeworld
Member

The real complaint should be that NJ slaps a $5 tax on a rental car whether you rent it for 1 hour or 24 hours.

Easy-E
Member

If in a year they haven’t come up with membership numbers in the hundreds or thousands, I will agree with you it’s a waste of space.

For crying out loud, give it some time.

animal_lover
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animal_lover

why not have a rental bike share program? That’ll get another 100 cars per bike off the rode not to mention 5 bikes per bike and 16 strollers per bike!!! In addition, with the right type of seat it could also reduce the rate of reproduction in town and potentially, reduce foreclosures and even increase the high school graduation rate. You do the math. [quote comment=”195347″]If in a year they haven’t come up with membership numbers in the hundreds or thousands, I will agree with you it’s a waste of space.For crying out loud, give it some time.[/quote]

Easy-E
Member

I think they should have stabled horses tied up around town.

Aside from the manure, they’re clean vehicles. Best of all, you can grind them up into glue and alpo when they finally give up.[quote comment=”195769″]why not have a rental bike share program? That’ll get another 100 cars per bike off the rode not to mention 5 bikes per bike and 16 strollers per bike!!! In addition, with the right type of seat it could also reduce the rate of reproduction in town and potentially, reduce foreclosures and even increase the high school graduation rate. You do the math.

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animal_lover
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animal_lover

Great idea…and we can feed the horses the road kill of cyclist and pedestrians who ignore the law.[quote comment=”195808″]I think they should have stabled horses tied up around town.Aside from the manure, they’re clean vehicles. Best of all, you can grind them up into glue and alpo when they finally give up.[/quote]

bradykp
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bradykp
yeah Eqasy-E. people need to chill out about it for a little bit. jam981 is a good example of how the system works. He/she has decided, at least for now, to not replace his/her car. Obviously it’s not going to happen overnight, but many people may be faced with these choices over time, and now, have an option that makes renting very convenient. This is why ZipCar and Connect have been created – they are targeting urban areas where car-sharing is feasible. It’s their business model. Hertz has car rental retail locations, but still choose to persue this business because of this exact concept. The retail locations are really for business rentals and the occasional renters for weekend trips – but a better alternative arrived in ZipCar, and the retail companies have all started to persue similar models, with Hertz Connect emerging as the best competitor to ZipCar so far (at least according to most business articles i’ve read about it). I don’t think the city is overselling it, they are saying it’s part of many steps the city is taking to address the parking/transportation issues. We’ll see I guess, but it’s tough to change the American mentality of car ownership – even slowly, over many many years – hopefully urbanites are more open to the concept, but it’s tough to really believe people will change – the comments on/supported by this site show how tough it is.[quote comment=”195347″]If in a year they haven’t come up with membership numbers in… Read more »
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