Hertz on Demand exempt from street cleaning

Hertz on Demand skates on street sweeper in Hoboken (every week!)

For YEARS, we’ve all seen the street sweeper in Hoboken go around the Hertz on Demand cars which are peppered all over the city. I still am trying to figure out “who got paid off” for this racket of a deal.

$100 a month for reserved parking on the street, AND exemption from the $50 street cleaning tickets each week. Do the math. Garages cost $300 a month, and a ticket every week would be around $200 a month. They’re UP $400 a month net! What a bargain! Where can I sign up?

Hertz on Demand cars get pass from Hoboken HPU Hypocrisy

Who is checking up on Hertz?

8/17/2010 Update:

Y’know, each week, I get quite a few emails from frustrated car-owning Hoboken residents who either cannot find a practical reason to use the Hertz on Demand (formerly Connect by Hertz) Corner Cars or hate the fact that the spots cost the billion dollar company only $100 a month while they reap massive profits. Most often, it’s a basic email conversation between us.

However, I’ve been getting more emails as of late, indicating how trashy the spots look – while the rest of the street that was cleaned by the street cleaners looked respectable. Here’s a prime example. This Hertz Corner Cars location near Park and Sixth was cluttered with rubbish, cups, and more.

  • Who at city hall allowed Hertz to “promise” they’d clean the spots only twice a month?
  • Why not every week like the street cleaners? Heck, for the lost parking ticket revenue, these spots should be cleaned DAILY!
  • How come there’s no financial ramification for failure to comply? Look at this crap!

Street cleaning frustrates many residents

6/30/2010:

You ever forget to move your car for street cleaning in Hoboken? Only to rush to move it right after the sweeper passes – and you find a $45 ticket stuck on the car? If that’s not bad enough – you see that the sweeper sometimes leaves more of a mess behind. Frustrating, eh?

Since the Connect by Hertz Corner Cars launched in Hoboken recently – Hoboken411 has been receiving a steady stream of concerns about this community car sharing program that city transportation czar Ian Sacs said will “remove 750 cars from the streets.”

So far, about 100 residents have signed up to the program, but no cars have been relinquished.

As you can see from the current Hoboken411 poll – about 60% of respondents use a car daily or often enough to make the program unaffordable. 20% only use their cars sporadically, but about half of those have private parking spaces, and 20% don’t have a car at all.

Part of the agreement with the city, Hertz pays a “whopping” $100 per spot per month, but is completely exempt from street cleaning regulations. They’re supposed to “clean” the spots manually themselves.

Some comments from the residents I’ve spoken with:

  • “Only $100 a month? I’d pay double that to have my own private spot in front of my apartment!”
  • “Who inspects the cleanliness of the parking spots? What’s the fine for non-compliance? Why can’t I be exempt from street cleaning if I sweep my spot too?”

In the long run, supposed to benefit residents

I can understand why bending the rules for Hertz frustrates drivers. Because the city doles out parking summonses like candy from a Pez dispenser. However, it seems to me that the concept behind this Corner Cars program, is so lazy residents don’t have to walk more than a block or two before they can sit down again and drive wherever they’re going. This program wouldn’t work without making allowances such as this. You don’t see the city promoting the 43 Zip Cars we have at various locations throughout town, do you?

However, why stop there? Here are some other concepts to consider;

  • Let’s eliminate street sweepers altogether! Encourage the community to sweep the streets themselves. More money in the pockets of residents to spend at local businesses, right? Well, not really – because the millions of dollars in revenue that stuffs city coffers would be gone, and then we’d probably have another tax increase.
  • Hey, isn’t Ian Sacs a fan-boy for bicycles? Can’t we create a giant parking lot with 100’s of bike racks? Make people bike to the Hertz Cars instead of taking valuable spots from residents.
  • Make EVERY SPOT private in Hoboken. I estimate at least 7,000 street parking spots. That’s over $8 million in annual revenue. Who wouldn’t want that? Build a giant parking garage for visitors, and run that silly shuttle all day and night. There’d be plenty of money left over to help with budgetary problems. Heck, throw in some Pedi-Cabs for good measure. Speaking of Pedi-Cabs, why’d the put a moratorium on those? I digress, but this city is so filled with contradictions, it gives me a headache.

12 Responses

  1. Stabone130 says:

    This city never ceases to amaze me.

  2. HOB424 says:

    The cars should have to be moved during street cleaning. It either applies to everyone or noone. If you have a handicapped space, you still have to move for street cleaning. If you have temporary no parking signs, for moving or having contractors park when they are working on your house – their trucks have to be moved or else they are ticketed. Why is a coropration exempt? The environmental services dept should be inspecting these spaces and issue tickets to the corporation that owns them, if they do not clean the street on the same schedule or atleast weekly.

    Also, the cars are registered in the state of New York. Not New Jersey and not Hoboken. Residents have to register a car here, then a corporation should NOT be exempt.

    Plus what happens if the residents whose houses these are in front of, need a temporary no parking sign, who is responsible for moving the cars? What about when thre are block parties in the falll and all cars need to be moved. Who is going to move the cars and where willl they go? If everyone has to get their cars off the streets for these block parties, then a corporation should NOT be exempt.

    There are rental car agencies and there is also zip car. Why does the government have to help people rent a car? Why are people not capable to do this for themselves? There are alot of services the government does need to provide. Governements should NOT be in the car rental business. :roll:

    • NorthKrissy says:

      Excellent points, HOB424.

      I am also curious why the city completely ignores the Zip Car. A very similar program, the only main difference being the fact that residents might (god forbid) have to walk a few extra blocks. The main selling point for these corner cars is that they’re in the neighborhood. Hoboken is a mile square, EVERYTHING is in the neighborhood! Did anyone check Zimmer’s campaign donors versus the locations for the cars?

      That Sacs kid should stick with just bikes or just cars. He must be Al Gore’s god child or something. [quote comment=”194108″]The cars should have to be moved during street cleaning. It either applies to everyone or noone. If you have a handicapped space, you still have to move for street cleaning. If you have temporary no parking signs, for moving or having contractors park when they are working on your house – their trucks have to be moved or else they are ticketed. Why is a coropration exempt? The environmental services dept should be inspecting these spaces and issue tickets to the corporation that owns them, if they do not clean the street on the same schedule or atleast weekly.Also, the cars are registered in the state of New York. Not New Jersey and not Hoboken. Residents have to register a car here, then a corporation should NOT be exempt.Plus what happens if the residents whose houses these are in front of, need a temporary no parking sign, who is responsible for moving the cars? What about when thre are block parties in the falll and all cars need to be moved. Who is going to move the cars and where willl they go? If everyone has to get their cars off the streets for these block parties, then a corporation should NOT be exempt.There are rental car agencies and there is also zip car. Why does the government have to help people rent a car? Why are people not capable to do this for themselves? There are alot of services the government does need to provide. Governements should NOT be in the car rental business. [/quote]

      • HOB424 says:

        Yes, exaclty, everything is in the neighborhood. Hoboken is not that big and it doesn’t hurt to walk a few blocks.

        In regards to the bike lanes, they have them on side streets? If a car is driving down a side street, there is not enough room for a bike. What is the car has to serve to avoid one of the many potholes, where does the bike go then?

        Does this director live here? Only a resident can understand the practicality of these ideas.[quote comment=”194121″]Excellent points, HOB424.I am also curious why the city completely ignores the Zip Car. A very similar program, the only main difference being the fact that residents might (god forbid) have to walk a few extra blocks. The main selling point for these corner cars is that they’re in the neighborhood. Hoboken is a mile square, EVERYTHING is in the neighborhood! Did anyone check Zimmer’s campaign donors versus the locations for the cars?That Sacs kid should stick with just bikes or just cars. He must be Al Gore’s god child or something. [/quote]

  3. SupermAnalyst says:

    I am still not clear why these cars have to be on the street and not in the municipal garages, as zip cars are.

    Is it because the garages charge more than $100 a month per spot?

    If that is the case, than this sounds more like a scheme for the city to make money at the expense of residents assuming (1) the city gets $100 per spot on the street from Hertz, instead of $35 from a resident and (2) the displaced resident buys a garage spot for more than $100.

    The 750 cars off the street claim sounds suspect too. I’m curious how many cars zip took off the street.

  4. blahblahblah says:

    the entire things stinks to high heaven…the folks who voted for this i hope you are watching…there is no real reform, transparency or any of the crap they said was coming….also isnt there a city ordinance as to parking or leaving your car in the same spot for x amount of time, then it can be towed….can someone research that…i thought i read that once….for 100 bucks amount they are exempt from street sweepers….how about 12g in taxes what does that get someone…

  5. lhoward222 says:

    Ian’s ideas are always untested … he is a screwball. Ian– you need to research your ideas prior to implementing. I am amazed at your cavalier approach.

    1. Taxi stands uptown never worked b/c there was no notifcation of said stands and people just got angry that street parking was taken.

    2. Shuttle stops and signage for vans to Clearview theater without any larger PR failed. Signs taken down within 2 weeks.

    3. Getting local community around Clearview theater all riled up about taking away spots for that theater (which is probably running in red) … mistake. given the theater hadn’t even opened for biz.

    4. I live on a “bike lane” street, Grand, nary a bike — oh a guy going the wrong way heading north on south-bound street.

    5. Now this Hertz car nonesense when there are already loads of Zip cars.

    6. Wait! Closing Sinatra on Sundays? Jury is out, but I bet Hudson Street residents have a mouthful of comments.

    Just seems to me that he caters to business … as opposed to working with PoPo to police stop signs and regs that are in place.

    Examples: Corner of Grand and 11th 3-stop chaos. Downtown rush hour chaos emptying from any south-street onto Observer to get to Rte78/1-9/Turnpike.

    • homeworld says:

      “Getting local community around Clearview theater all riled up about taking away spots for that theater (which is probably running in red)”

      What makes you say that? The theater frequently has a line out the door and is sold out.

      My question is about the Hertz cars in the photo above on the corner of 11th and Hudson… How did the green “corner car” parking spaces get stripped beyond the “no parking here to corner” sign?[quote comment=”194117″]Ian’s ideas are always untested … he is a screwball. Ian– you need to research your ideas prior to implementing. I am amazed at your cavalier approach.1. Taxi stands uptown never worked b/c there was no notifcation of said stands and people just got angry that street parking was taken.2. Shuttle stops and signage for vans to Clearview theater without any larger PR failed. Signs taken down within 2 weeks. 3. Getting local community around Clearview theater all riled up about taking away spots for that theater (which is probably running in red) … mistake. given the theater hadn’t even opened for biz. 4. I live on a “bike lane” street, Grand, nary a bike — oh a guy going the wrong way heading north on south-bound street.5. Now this Hertz car nonesense when there are already loads of Zip cars. 6. Wait! Closing Sinatra on Sundays? Jury is out, but I bet Hudson Street residents have a mouthful of comments.Just seems to me that he caters to business … as opposed to working with PoPo to police stop signs and regs that are in place. Examples: Corner of Grand and 11th 3-stop chaos. Downtown rush hour chaos emptying from any south-street onto Observer to get to Rte78/1-9/Turnpike.[/quote]

  6. bradykp says:

    A program like this wouldn’t work if the cars had to be moved during street cleaning. If Hertz will clean the parking spaces (which I don’t see why they wouldn’t – it’s a representation of their product), then that’s less street the city needs to sweep. My guess is no parking signs will just have to be 2 spaces forward, instead of these spaces. Rental Car agencies differ from ZipCar and from the Herzt Connect programs. ZipCar went into Hoboken on their own, and didn’t make an agreement with the city – they’ve done this in other cities though, but for some reason didn’t in Hoboken. Hertz did though. But, there have been ZipCar street spots in Hoboken – I don’t know if they still are.

    Hoboken won’t see an immediate relinquishing of cars, it’ll happen over time. People will skip buying a car, people may get rid of cars, but overall, this will give access to cars for more people without having to buy and park one.

    Sometimes i think 411ers will just complain about anything.

  7. theins says:

    Zip Cars are good, but a friend of mine does it and said he has gone to pick up his car and they have none available and they send him into the city to get one. What is the point in that. He ends up borrowing my car more.

    I would love to see the usage reports on these connect cars, who is using them and how often, i really don’t see them being used that much.

    • Litteredboken says:

      You could make some sort of website… I am interested in those stats, too.[quote comment=”196233″]Zip Cars are good, but a friend of mine does it and said he has gone to pick up his car and they have none available and they send him into the city to get one. What is the point in that. He ends up borrowing my car more.I would love to see the usage reports on these connect cars, who is using them and how often, i really don’t see them being used that much.[/quote]

  8. hoboken411 says:

    Hoboken411 reader Todd sent this in:

    “I took this last night (sorry for the poor quality…I took it using my iPhone) on 4th Street between Monroe and Jackson. You can see the green line on the sidewalk that shows these are Corner Cars. I thought Hertz was responsible for the upkeep of their parking spaces? Generally, our streets are pretty clean. What’s the city going to do about this? Anything? They probably don’t care… they’re getting paid for these spaces on PUBLIC streets and probably getting an increase in revenue from the extra boots/tickets they’re writing because even more people need to park illegally.”

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