Hoboken aids in Union City Fire

6/8/2010:

Hoboken trucks at 1911 Palisades Ave. in Union City

Imagine if all fire departments county-wide were scaled back significantly? There would likely be circumstances where several fires in multiple municipalities were happening simultaneously. As it stands now, when our fire squads are overwhelmed (as as happened several times in the past few years) – we call for “mutual aid.” This ensures proper fire fighting teams where needed, while not completely leaving other areas without sufficient coverage.

Hoboken FD is currently aiding in a fire at 1911 Palisades Ave in Union City. Good to see our towns can work together with priority.

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22 Comments on "Hoboken aids in Union City Fire"

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

matt a ratta tat that is why you shoulld have applied for fire dispatcher..u da man..as long
as your arse does not burn and your kids are safe u can bark all you want..God help u

Mr Bigs
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Unfortunately Matt, you just fell for their smoke and mirrors. Let’s just go with your theory that E11 was the first to arrive with 3 men from 6 blocks away, they start to mount an interior attack and have to wait for the next engine to arrive for a water supply and 3 more men. Incidently, with E9 closed, the next available engine comes from Union City, West New York or 43rd & Tonnelle. Valuable minutes were wasted.
Now my theory. E9 pulls out their door and starts to mount that same interior attack, E11 pulls up 4 minutes later and the interior attack is in motion. YES Matt, it does make a difference. FACT: That building (now a lot) and the 2 buildings to the north of the firehouse, all had previous fires in them and survived with minimal damage when E9 was open.

matt_72
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Here is another fact for you, if the fire is already so big that 3 guys from 6 blocks away can’t put it out, then chances are the building is toast. No city can afford to have so many firehouses open that you have 2 open at the same time w/in 6 blocks of each other.[quote comment=”193441″]Unfortunately Matt, you just fell for their smoke and mirrors. Let’s just go with your theory that E11 was the first to arrive with 3 men from 6 blocks away, they start to mount an interior attack and have to wait for the next engine to arrive for a water supply and 3 more men. Incidently, with E9 closed, the next available engine comes from Union City, West New York or 43rd & Tonnelle. Valuable minutes were wasted.
Now my theory. E9 pulls out their door and starts to mount that same interior attack, E11 pulls up 4 minutes later and the interior attack is in motion. YES Matt, it does make a difference. FACT: That building (now a lot) and the 2 buildings to the north of the firehouse, all had previous fires in them and survived with minimal damage when E9 was open.[/quote]

RTD
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Whiskey, Matt is just showing his ignorance and lack of knowledge on this topic. Opting to state so called FACTS, which are actually baseless opinions. Matt, I urge you to take a class on fire supression, methods of fire attack and fire travel. I think that it would greatly enlighten you and probably change your opinions, definitely not FACTS as you call them, on needing much more then 3 firefighters to properly contain and extinguish a fire.
[quote comment=”193444″]Here is another fact for you, if the fire is already so big that 3 guys from 6 blocks away can’t put it out, then chances are the building is toast. No city can afford to have so many firehouses open that you have 2 open at the same time w/in 6 blocks of each other.[/quote]

Mr Bigs
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Hey Matt, I learned long ago not to attempt to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man and you are living proof. If you really believe that 3 men can fight a fire, you are obviously uneducated or just a rebel rouser. Have a nice life.[quote comment=”193504″]Whiskey, Matt is just showing his ignorance and lack of knowledge on this topic. Opting to state so called FACTS, which are actually baseless opinions. Matt, I urge you to take a class on fire supression, methods of fire attack and fire travel. I think that it would greatly enlighten you and probably change your opinions, definitely not FACTS as you call them, on needing much more then 3 firefighters to properly contain and extinguish a fire. [/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

matt as a regular activeist on all forums you seem to have no life but to comment and its your right to do so..Pray your arse dosent go on fire and that your kids if u have any are safe..you talk the talk but u dont walk the walk… your wasting time as a corperate or activiisit ..You should have been made a coast guard captain head of both depts .get real[quote comment=”193444″]Here is another fact for you, if the fire is already so big that 3 guys from 6 blocks away can’t put it out, then chances are the building is toast. No city can afford to have so many firehouses open that you have 2 open at the same time w/in 6 blocks of each other.

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Mr Bigs
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The problem with Regionalization is the smoke and mirror magic they shove down peoples throats. Just drive past Engine 9 in North Bergen and see the empty lot next door. This happened when the firehouse was closed recently. It looked open because a Battalion Chief was there (smoke and mirrors) but he had no water, men or pumper. Then the director states on TV that it had nothing to do with the house being closed. You can’t fix stupid!

matt_72
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Are we talking about the same fire where the first responders came from the fire house 6 blocks away from the fire instead of the fire house that was right next door? If so, do you really think it made any difference? I don’t buy it.[quote comment=”193409″]The problem with Regionalization is the smoke and mirror magic they shove down peoples throats. Just drive past Engine 9 in North Bergen and see the empty lot next door. This happened when the firehouse was closed recently. It looked open because a Battalion Chief was there (smoke and mirrors) but he had no water, men or pumper. Then the director states on TV that it had nothing to do with the house being closed. You can’t fix stupid![/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

It’s called mutual aid…You have a three alarmer in Hoboken you blow out 26 firemen.
You can see what happened in Union City,and a public officials house destroyed..One never knows do one? We only have two trucks plus an old tiller spare..four pumpers
and rescue..Jersey city had to come in and assist the last three fires.Applied housing is not fireproof.To many air shafts over 100 yrs old.Carboard condos not fireproof and the tall bldgs uptown scarey situation..Another bldg just went up on 14th and hudson st.
Any structure wood frame can go up in five minutes..what was that about response time?
specially middle of the night.. I saw many police run into a flaming bldg without a scott pac,,to rescue people…Saw people jump on 14th st..Saw fireman weep. Saw kids put in body bags burnt to a crisp…Leave the logistics to the professionals and not naysayers untill its their house then the additude changes..just better safe than sorry[quote comment=”193410″]Are we talking about the same fire where the first responders came from the fire house 6 blocks away from the fire instead of the fire house that was right next door? If so, do you really think it made any difference? I don’t buy it.

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wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

btw you should contact the chief or mayor and apply for fire alarm operator for you seem
to have the grids all worked out for a newbee..Its all computers in the radio room and u should have no problem putting the lives of fireman and civilians in your hands..You seem
to have a slant on things…live it deal with it and then form an analogy…not an argument
just my view as you have yours..[quote comment=”193437″]It’s called mutual aid…You have a three alarmer in Hoboken you blow out 26 firemen.
You can see what happened in Union City,and a public officials house destroyed..One never knows do one? We only have two trucks plus an old tiller spare..four pumpers
and rescue..Jersey city had to come in and assist the last three fires.Applied housing is not fireproof.To many air shafts over 100 yrs old.Carboard condos not fireproof and the tall bldgs uptown scarey situation..Another bldg just went up on 14th and hudson st.
Any structure wood frame can go up in five minutes..what was that about response time?
specially middle of the night.. I saw many police run into a flaming bldg without a scott pac,,to rescue people…Saw people jump on 14th st..Saw fireman weep. Saw kids put in body bags burnt to a crisp…Leave the logistics to the professionals and not naysayers untill its their house then the additude changes..just better safe than sorry

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hobokenj
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hobokenj

Most people who claim this doesnt save money are people who no longer benefit from the status quo. i.e tons of brass and the high salaries those positions earn. I am not for closing houses or reducing # of firemen but all for less captains, shared cost in repairs of vehicles/equiipment, admin positions etc.

http://njmonthly.com/articles/towns_and_schools/in-it-together.html

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

its called mutual aid..when hoboken gets a hit 4 alarmer,,24 personal roll out.thats it
the jerkoff activists claim we hoboken do not need that many fireman..two blocks went up in union city,and engine 2 responded,because there all brothers..wisen up cardboard
condo jerks..fire is nasty.[quote comment=”193327″]Most people who claim this doesnt save money are people who no longer benefit from the status quo. i.e tons of brass and the high salaries those positions earn. I am not for closing houses or reducing # of firemen but all for less captains, shared cost in repairs of vehicles/equiipment, admin positions etc. [/quote]

hobokenj
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hobokenj

No one is disputing that fire is nasty or that firmen dont look out for each other and help when a big fire is needed. Saying that instead of just helping when needed is great but being one unit from the get go is better and more efficient. So what is your gripe here?[quote comment=”193377″]its called mutual aid..when hoboken gets a hit 4 alarmer,,24 personal roll out.thats itthe jerkoff activists claim we hoboken do not need that many fireman..two blocks went up in union city,and engine 2 responded,because there all brothers..wisen up cardboardcondo jerks..fire is nasty.[/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

hobo no grip just an opinion as you have yours.One unit?????? dont get it..your beef is not with me.. a while back they took an extra man off the rigs leaving two and a captain
this was before the newbees came in.Tons of brass? Brass run into flaming bldgs aka captains.Now your deciding how and where the dispatcher should dispatch personall.
Any dispatch is over ruled by the batallian chief for he is in the mix..At applied housing
last two fires two people died..union city jersey city hoboken was there and still took hrs to contain the blaze..Your worried about your property tax and house value but pray u
never have to deal with a disaster…Nothing else will matter..furrny part is public saftey
got their raises through collective bargining over the yrs..You guys lost 200,000 jobs and now blaim pd and fd? BtW nyc may only have one chief but also have deputy police chiefs quite a few..guess that dosent count?? enjoy life god didnt promise u tomorrow..Leave the stress to the mayor..she got what she wished for :mrgreen: [quote comment=”193385″]No one is disputing that fire is nasty or that firmen dont look out for each other and help when a big fire is needed. Saying that instead of just helping when needed is great but being one unit from the get go is better and more efficient. So what is your gripe here?

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blahblahblah
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blahblahblah

agreed, but im telling you “they” will only do it and they being the other five towns if we agree to pay the larger tax portion….which i hope this administration wont agree to….also your comment about getting more for less…..YOU ARE GETTING A BARGAIN….that is a fact….but you can have your opinion…..and if the regionalization were to take place the same procedure would take place…sell the rigs, equipment etc and then least it back…its a way for HCIA to make money….this is hudson county or have you forgotten…HAHAHA…

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