Zero Tolerance St. Patty’s Day!

3/24/2010 Update:

Hoboken411 reader Lauren recounts the scene in court yesterday – and all the 2010 St. Patrick’s Parade fines…

Hours of fines, some reduced, some not

“Hi Hoboken 411,

I’m a big fan of your website. I look at it all the time in order to find out what’s going on in Hoboken. It is because of your website that I was well aware of all the Hoboken penalties for Hoboken St. Patty’s Day on March 6.

Despite the warnings, me and my roommates planned a house party. While I don’t believe it ever got out of hand, the police came and broke it up. They charged us with a disorderly house in my roommate’s name. While I was upset, I felt like I knew this might happen, and I was ready to accept the consequences.

Today, we appeared in court. We sat through about 4 hours of hearings regarding fines of jaywalking, littering, open containers and consumption of alcohol that took place on March 6th. I was surprised that many of the fines, particularly the open container fines, were reduced. The open container fine originally stated at $2,000, was reduced to $750, plus court fees ($33) and a day of community service totaling 6 hours. When they finally reached disorderly house fines, me and my roommates were shocked to hear that the $1,000 fine was raised to $2,000. Despite the letter written by Chief of Police Anthony P. Falco, Sr., which states that the fine should not exceed $1,000, the judge required us to pay $2,000.

I guess I’m interested to see what happened to others who received disorderly house fines. While I’m sure you are tired of covering Hoboken St. Patty’s Day for this year, I thought I might ask to see if you heard from anyone else, since the March 6 fines are being heard this week. I’d love to hear your input. Hoboken411 is a great online, community forum. I’m just looking for some clarification on why our fine was raised.”

-Lauren

Did any of you appear in court this week?

SEE PREVIOUS UPDATES AFTER THE JUMP…

3/11/2010 Update:

Day of mayhem results in cash cow for city

Between the Hoboken Police, Hudson County Sheriff’s Office and NJ Transit – over 550 tickets were issued during Hoboken’s St. Patrick’s Parade on March 6th, 2010.

Here’s a brief breakdown. What the total amount received in revenue will be known once all cases are heard.

Summonses Issued:

  • Open Container: 154
  • Jay Walking: 85
  • Drinking in the Street: 77
  • Disorderly House: 51
  • Public Urination: 41
  • Disorderly Conduct: 38
  • Littering: 9
  • Selling without License: 9
  • Other Misc.: 12
  • NJ Transit: 56
  • Hudson County: 23
  • TOTAL: 555

Overtime the city had to pay for this event: Approx. $120,000

Despite the “profit” the city and businesses made for the biggest party day of the year in Hoboken – do you still think it’s worth it? If not, why?? If so – do you think we should have many more events like this to help cut taxes?

2/27/2010 Reminder:

Annual Parade / Party next Saturday!

Get ready, less than a week left before the kegs, coolers, and cops mix and mingle through the streets, bars and apartments of Hoboken!

Constitutional or not – big fines will be issued for those dumb enough to bring their poor judgment to public areas of the Mile Square. Don’t say you haven’t been warned enough!

2/3/2010:

Zero Tolerance! Planning on being stupid on SPD?

Hoboken Police Chief Anthony P. Falco, Sr. has a message to anyone that tries to come to the Mile Square and act like an idiot on our St. Patrick’s Day this year.

Let this serve as a firm warning to anyone (both from Hoboken or out of town): If you have the tendency to get drunk and stupid during events like this – THEN PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM HOBOKEN! You’ll be embarrassed and MUCH poorer if you do. Take my word for it.

Hoboken St. Patrick's Day warning from Police Chief Falco February 2010

Zero Tolerance Policy Strictly Enforced

“Dear Residents and Visitors of Hoboken,

On Saturday, March 6, 2010, the City of Hoboken will be hosting the annual St. Patrick’s Day Parade. The parade is very popular and draws tens of thousands of people to our city. At times, some of our residents and guests become disorderly and unruly making it a difficult day for our residents who do not celebrate the day. In order to keep our city under control and create a safe and enjoyable environment for everyone, I will have every one of my officers working on that day with almost all of them, out on our streets, on patrol. My officers will be strictly enforcing all criminal and motor vehicle laws as well as all city ordinance violations. The following are four violations where there will be a zero tolerance policy in effect for the day:

  1. City Ordinance 145-23 A/B (Consumption of Alcohol/Open Container in Public)- Any person seen possessing an open container of alcohol in public faces maximum penalties of a fine up to $2,000, and the possible sentence of having to perform Community Service.
  2. City Ordinance 145-22 (Urinating in Public)- Any person observed urinating on public streets, sidewalks or in parks faces maximum penalties of a fine up to $2,000, and the possible sentence of having to perform Community Service.
  3. New Jersey State Statute 2C:33-12 (Maintaining a Nuisance)- House parties have become our largest problem on the parade day. Last year my officers responded to 131 calls for disorderly house parties. This year, when a party is deemed to be unreasonably reckless, disorderly and unsafe, the renter or owner of the apartment or house will be charged with this statute. A person is guilty of this offense when one “by conduct which is unlawful or unreasonable, knowingly or recklessly creates or maintains a condition which endangers the safety or health of persons”, or when “one knowingly conducts or maintains a premises or place where persons gather for purposes of engaging in unlawful conduct.” The maximum penalties for this offense are imprisonment of up to 6 months and fines not to exceed $1,000.
  4. New Jersey State Statute 2C: 33-2a (Disorderly Conduct, Improper Behavior)- A Person is guilty of disorderly conduct if “with purpose to cause public inconvenience, annoyance or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof he, (1) Engages in fighting or threatening, or in violent or tumultuous behavior, or (2) Creates a hazardous or physically dangerous condition by any act which serves no legitimate purpose.” This offense carries maximum penalties of a 30 day prison term and a fine not to exceed $500.

I ask all the residents and guests of our city to please be considerate to everyone on this day, and to inform all family and friends to act respectful and orderly. Once again, we want this to be an enjoyable, but more importantly, safe day. The Hoboken Police Department will do everything within their powers to keep it as such. Finally, Do Not Drink and Drive. You may injure yourself or others, and if caught, you will be arrested.

Sincerely,

Chief Anthony P. Falco, Sr.

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191 Comments on "Zero Tolerance St. Patty’s Day!"


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Boken Pug
6 years 6 days ago

Muffin Top!!

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plywood
6 years 6 days ago

Thank you Police Chief Falco! Let’s hope the enforcement is as stated here, and if it is and the town is still a zoo, it’s time to rethink this parade, despite bar and restaurant revenues. The powers that be have taken an enormous risk by letting this parade stay in place on a Saturday, and hopefully no one will get injured or worse. Again, thank you in advance to the chief and all our men in uniform.

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bradykp
6 years 4 days ago

wouldn’t it be cool if the so called “responsible” people in town could have their friends come into town, take up most of the space (parking spaces, head to the bars and not drink much) and then the trouble makers couldn’t cause as much trouble? obviously would never happen, but it’d be like a sit-in at the bars. lol. watch where your car is that day for people that own cars! In response to plywood who said: Thank you Police Chief Falco! Let’s hope the enforcement is as stated here, and if it is and the town is still a… Read more »

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getz76
6 years 4 days ago

Agreed on watching where your car is parked. Park it in a garage overnight the night before.

In response to bradykp who said:
wouldn’t it be cool if the so called “responsible” people in town could have their friends come into town, take up most of the space (parking spaces, head to the bars and not drink much) and then the trouble makers couldn’t cause as much trouble? obviously would never happen, but it’d be like a sit-in at the bars. lol.

watch where your car is that day for people that own cars!

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hobokenj
6 years 4 days ago

what would be cool if pier A had several beeer tents and you could drink on the pier. Outside with 10,000 of your closest friends. Easy for cops to maintain cause everyone is in one part of town. Lowers amount of House partys where hard liqour is and where people get the drunkest. Port a Johns all set up. Like a giant St Anns. In response to bradykp who said: wouldn’t it be cool if the so called “responsible” people in town could have their friends come into town, take up most of the space (parking spaces, head to the… Read more »

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plywood
6 years 4 days ago

Love this idea. Wristband event. Solves the problem while acknowledging a drinker’s perspective. A real team-builder. As they say at the end of many a cartoon “If you can’t beat’em, join’em”. In response to hobokenj who said: what would be cool if pier A had several beeer tents and you could drink on the pier. Outside with 10,000 of your closest friends. Easy for cops to maintain cause everyone is in one part of town. Lowers amount of House partys where hard liqour is and where people get the drunkest. Port a Johns all set up. Like a giant St… Read more »

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DEADMAU5
6 years 4 days ago

Yeah 10k people on a pier known for erosion, really smart idea! You ever thought of running for politics cause they are all just as silly as you are

In response to hobokenj who said:
what would be cool if pier A had several beeer tents and you could drink on the pier. Outside with 10,000 of your closest friends. Easy for cops to maintain cause everyone is in one part of town. Lowers amount of House partys where hard liqour is and where people get the drunkest. Port a Johns all set up. Like a giant St Anns.

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justaview
6 years 4 days ago

I like this idea let them float away as we wave goodbye!

In response to DEADMAU5 who said:
Yeah 10k people on a pier known for erosion, really smart idea! You ever thought of running for politics cause they are all just as silly as you are

Member
6 years 4 days ago

It’s a brilliant idea.

In response to DEADMAU5 who said:
Yeah 10k people on a pier known for erosion, really smart idea! You ever thought of running for politics cause they are all just as silly as you are

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nighthawk
6 years 6 days ago

I’m glad to see the new Chief is taking this matter seriously. I promised myself last year that I would make arrangements to take my family out if town that weekend, and I will do just that.

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DEADMAU5
6 years 6 days ago

Regardless of the possible fines people will still be idiots because many of us have the thought that “I’ll never get caught” or “I know the cops well” or “They’re just saying that to scare you”. If you think the above your are very sadly mistaken. Some of us are thinking about renting our bathrooms out for $20 per usage to take make some extra cash. In addition we are also thinking about making signs that read “I paid $20 to use a toilet today, please kick me” and taping them to our out of town guests backs as they… Read more »

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xxrjxx
6 years 6 days ago

Good luck with that–you’ll be spending any money you make on cleaning the piss and s**t from your bathroom walls, ceiling, and floor. In response to DEADMAU5 who said: Regardless of the possible fines people will still be idiots because many of us have the thought that “I’ll never get caught” or “I know the cops well” or “They’re just saying that to scare you”. If you think the above your are very sadly mistaken. Some of us are thinking about renting our bathrooms out for $20 per usage to take make some extra cash. In addition we are also… Read more »

Member
6 years 6 days ago

Trying to keep the lid on trouble on St P Day is like whack a mole–they can have the entire force out and there’s still no way they can control it. They would need several cops on every block all day and night. The only way to stop it is to ban it or move the parade to a time when it won’t attract drunken mobs, like a Tuesday night or something. We have other parades on weekdays, why not this one? Then the Irish can celebrate their day without this blight on our city following it.

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