Hoboken robbing drivers?

2/2/2010:

One Hoboken411 reader – and small business owner – sent in an example of how the City seems desperate to generate revenue to fill the massive budget shortfall – by stealing from local residents and business owners. Not cool! Makes you wonder if city employees have been given a firm objective to issue tickets – even if vehicles are not quite yet in violation!

Hoboken City Hall Thievery ticketing cars inappropriately

City of Hoboken desperate for ticket revenue!

“Can you believe the Hoboken Parking Authority meter guy gave me a ticket BEFORE my meter ran out!

I went out to put more money in the meter and I already had a ticket on my windshield, even though there were 4 minutes left on the meter.

I have one picture showing three minutes left and the folded ticket on my windshield. The other picture shows the ticket was timestamped at 7:30 pm… although as you can see from the timestamp on my camera phone it was really 8:30 pm… and still 1 minute was remaining on the meter. Unbelievable!”

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DEADMAU5
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DEADMAU5

My favorite thing to do is pay a parking ticket with pennies. They all claim no pennies allowed and this is crap. Same with toll collectors, they say no pennies and they have to take it, everyone in the country has to accept pennies. Federal law requires anyone accepting currency as payment to accept all forms of legal currency. This also includes discontinued notes i.e. $3 bills made from 1862-1868. Also include half cents. If you go to pay a ticket and they refuse it you simply call the police and tell them they won’t accept it. They check on it and tell the gal she has to take it and if they do not they are subject to arrest. If you really want to aggravate someone, as they’re counting count out loud in reverse.

elainetyger
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elainetyger
You gotta watch out with that because payback’s a bitch. I used to know this toll collector who worked overnights at the Verrazano back when the toll was $2 (yeah, I’m old)… he got used to the same faces over and over… he was very friendly, said hi to everyone. This one ballbuster paid him with 2 bags of 100 pennies each, insisting my buddy had to take them. It took a 10-minute trip to the bank and a few weeks of waiting, but my buddy was patient. Sure enough, one night the ballbuster pays the toll with a $5 bill, and my buddy handed him back 3 bags of 100 pennies and wished him a good night. In response to DEADMAU5 who said: My favorite thing to do is pay a parking ticket with pennies. They all claim no pennies allowed and this is crap. Same with toll collectors, they say no pennies and they have to take it, everyone in the country has to accept pennies. Federal law requires anyone accepting currency as payment to accept all forms of legal currency. This also includes discontinued notes i.e. $3 bills made from 1862-1868. Also include half cents. If you go to pay a ticket and they refuse it you simply call the police and tell them they won’t accept it. They check on it and tell the gal she has to take it and if they do not they are subject to arrest. If you really want to aggravate… Read more »
Chapter 155
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Chapter 155
This is only true if you take on the debt without any restrictions. They likely have a regulation or some type of official rule about the types of currency they accept. Since the rule was in existance before you got your ticket, you took on the debt knowing you couldn’t pay with pennies (because you’re presumed to have known the law). For instance, if you walk into a dunkin donuts and see a sign saying they will not accept 50’s or 100’s, then you can’t use them since anything you order (and therefore assume debt) will come after the sign was in place. However, if there is no sign and you order a bagel and THEN they create the no 50’s or 100’s, then you have an issue. This has to be one of the biggest misconceptions out there, despite signs declaring restrictions on forms of payment being commonplace. In response to DEADMAU5 who said: My favorite thing to do is pay a parking ticket with pennies. They all claim no pennies allowed and this is crap. Same with toll collectors, they say no pennies and they have to take it, everyone in the country has to accept pennies. Federal law requires anyone accepting currency as payment to accept all forms of legal currency. This also includes discontinued notes i.e. $3 bills made from 1862-1868. Also include half cents. If you go to pay a ticket and they refuse it you simply call the police and tell them they won’t… Read more »
DEADMAU5
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DEADMAU5

I do not think so, sign or no sign all currencies must be accepted. Section 31 of the coinage act of 1865 specifically states this. Unless it is a creditor then all must take all forms of currency.

In response to Chapter 155 who said:
This is only true if you take on the debt without any restrictions. They likely have a regulation or some type of official rule about the types of currency they accept. Since the rule was in existance before you got your ticket, you took on the debt knowing you couldn’t pay with pennies (because you’re presumed to have known the law).

For instance, if you walk into a dunkin donuts and see a sign saying they will not accept 50’s or 100’s, then you can’t use them since anything you order (and therefore assume debt) will come after the sign was in place. However, if there is no sign and you order a bagel and THEN they create the no 50’s or 100’s, then you have an issue.

This has to be one of the biggest misconceptions out there, despite signs declaring restrictions on forms of payment being commonplace.

DEADMAU5
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DEADMAU5

1965 not 1865

In response to DEADMAU5 who said:
I do not think so, sign or no sign all currencies must be accepted. Section 31 of the coinage act of 1865 specifically states this. Unless it is a creditor then all must take all forms of currency.

nacholibre
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nacholibre

Do they take I.O.U.’s? They’re as good as money.

In response to DEADMAU5 who said:
My favorite thing to do is pay a parking ticket with pennies. They all claim no pennies allowed and this is crap. Same with toll collectors, they say no pennies and they have to take it, everyone in the country has to accept pennies. Federal law requires anyone accepting currency as payment to accept all forms of legal currency. This also includes discontinued notes i.e. $3 bills made from 1862-1868. Also include half cents. If you go to pay a ticket and they refuse it you simply call the police and tell them they won’t accept it. They check on it and tell the gal she has to take it and if they do not they are subject to arrest. If you really want to aggravate someone, as they’re counting count out loud in reverse.

Stabone130
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One could argue that your meter was in violation at 7:30pm, you kept your car there, put money in at 8:15, let it run down to :03 left, then snap the picture.

just sayin.

josephcampbell
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I also fought a ticket and won, but it meant sitting in the courtroom on a workday for 3 hours. Good luck!

dharma1129
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dharma1129

You don’t have to lose a workday. Hoboken has night court on Tuesday’s. You have to request to have your case heard on a Tuesday. I’ve had a lot of luck with night court and getting rid of my parking tickets. Good luck to you.

In response to josephcampbell who said:
I also fought a ticket and won, but it meant sitting in the courtroom on a workday for 3 hours. Good luck!

DEADMAU5
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DEADMAU5

Hoboken employees stealing and ripping us off? No way, really? That’s a first…

Holygoof
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Holygoof

TJD – I got a moving violation last year and went to court to fight it. I lost. There were no additional fees or charges. (Right now I cringe to imagine that we’ve given city hall an idea.)

I’ve gotten 3 moving violations in my life that I’ve fought in person. Hoboken was the only one where there was zero negotiations to knock it down to a lessor charge or cost.

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