24 hour establishments – trouble?
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12/28/2009:
There’s a good reason why there are so few 24-hour establishments in Hoboken (besides financial)…
Breeding grounds for trouble!
As the bars close, and the inebriated need to find a place to eat and gather – the police calls for fights and disturbances very often come from the food establishments that are open to serve them.
Whether it’s the Spa Diner, Malibu Diner, (and even late-night pizza places like Imposto’s and 7-Star) – and the new 7 Eleven they always seem to attract trouble. But how do you prevent these incidents from transpiring?
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Loading ...I for one, love the all-night places – and wish there were more uptown!
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December 28th 2009 - 09:41:42 |
But how do you prevent these incidents from transpiring?
How about following the law in the first place. It is illegal to serve or sell alcohol to someone who is visibly intoxicated. Oh yeah, but that’s bad for business.
The 24 hour markets/bodegas seem to have no trouble with the drunks. I bet they don’t want the 7-Eleven open 24 hours as the suburban lemmings are attracted to chain stores.
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December 28th 2009 - 09:55:56 |
Add a section to H411 entitled “being an ahole” Us citizens can send in pics and videos of people being dumb and stupid and they can be embarrassed here. That would curb stupidity. I would rather be in jail than pictured on H411. Word will spread and everyone will smarten up very quick
In response to hobokendave who said:
How about following the law in the first place. It is illegal to serve or sell alcohol to someone who is visibly intoxicated. Oh yeah, but that’s bad for business.
The 24 hour markets/bodegas seem to have no trouble with the drunks. I bet they don’t want the 7-Eleven open 24 hours as the suburban lemmings are attracted to chain stores.
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December 28th 2009 - 10:13:37 |
1) Increase PD patrols 2)install area PD Camera 3)Keep them moving 4) PD to educate store managers.
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December 28th 2009 - 10:32:50 |
1) with 243 cops in town what is there to increase? 2) Who pays? 3)HUH? 4) Good idea!!!
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December 28th 2009 - 10:41:37 |
Perhaps it should be on the store to hire security if they are creating a magnet for dangerous situations. Why should it fall on the taxpayer to police this problem magnet so 7-eleven can make money at all hours? If it becomes a hang, many people won’t think to patronize the place at odd hours anyway out of fear.
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December 28th 2009 - 10:43:57 |
If i owned the shop id post a huge “NO LOITERING” sign outside with some fake wireless cameras that you can get on eBay for $5 each. In the end, if something happens inside that 7-11 and someone gets hurt, 7-11 is going to pay for it.
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December 28th 2009 - 11:07:01 |
1) supervise frequency of patrols 2) may already have camera’s from grants (I believe) 3)Keep them moving means – no loitering enforced 4) thanks. Premises should have real cameras. There should be real camera’s in stores to catch those who violate the law. Most experts in the security field shy away from dummy camera’s because lawbreakers will find out fast and laugh that only ‘dummies’ would install dummy camera’s.
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December 28th 2009 - 11:39:52 |
“suburban lemmings”?
Ah, I forgot: Anyone who lives outside of a semi-urban area is automatically tossed in the unrefined and uncultured bin. You certainly are a man of the world.
In response to hobokendave who said:
How about following the law in the first place. It is illegal to serve or sell alcohol to someone who is visibly intoxicated. Oh yeah, but that’s bad for business.
The 24 hour markets/bodegas seem to have no trouble with the drunks. I bet they don’t want the 7-Eleven open 24 hours as the suburban lemmings are attracted to chain stores.
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December 28th 2009 - 12:01:28 |
There should also be a law that states if you work in a bar you can not drink while in premises. Bartender, owner, manager, whatever. I have seen many bar keepers get all tanked and go out in town and get all loud and nutty.
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December 28th 2009 - 14:03:53 |
@ deadmaus what the heck does your comment, #9 have to do with anything that this thread is about? Stay on subject or don’t post at all TIA
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December 28th 2009 - 14:31:54 |
You took the words out of my mouth.
In response to emarche who said:
Ah, I forgot: Anyone who lives outside of a semi-urban area is automatically tossed in the unrefined and uncultured bin. You certainly are a man of the world.
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December 28th 2009 - 14:33:04 |
no more cops please! we have more than we need and with 80 million of our budget allocated to salary & wages, benefits, and debt service we just can’t afford it.
if you don’t like the bar crowd move uptown its much quieter
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December 28th 2009 - 14:35:58 |
Getting a slice of pizza, a taco, or a Slurpee at 4 a.m. is not a problem. Acting like a gigantic asshole is a problem.
Bars over-serving? Fine the bartender and the bar. People acting disorderly? Ticket them. Cars parked illegally? Boot them.
Aggressive meat-heads are much less aggressive after pepper-sprayed, fined and having their license suspended.
A bunch of kids loitering in public? Not a problem. They have the right to assemble. As long as they are not blocking passage or creating a disturbance, get off their case.
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December 28th 2009 - 18:04:37 |
24 hour places serve a purpose in this town and every other town. Each establishment should be responsible for keeping it’s business under control and problem free.
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December 28th 2009 - 18:44:43 |
Well put. Hoboken Daily News doesn’t have a huge problem with this, why should 7-eleven? I would think we have all been 14 or so and hung out by a 7-eleven or the like at odd hours a few times. It’s as much part of our national experience as getting a wedgie or having some one give our sneaker a flat tire. Just keep it under control and try to remember what growing up is like. There are plenty of worse things a kid could be doing, and they wouldn’t be doing them in plain view for that matter.
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January 4th 2010 - 23:38:39 |
Exactly.
Surely no one can be making the argument here that local youth around a 7-11 at odd hours of the night are more of an issue than bar patrons, in HOBOKEN of all places.
In response to getz76 who said:
Bars over-serving? Fine the bartender and the bar. People acting disorderly? Ticket them. Cars parked illegally? Boot them.
Aggressive meat-heads are much less aggressive after pepper-sprayed, fined and having their license suspended.
A bunch of kids loitering in public? Not a problem. They have the right to assemble. As long as they are not blocking passage or creating a disturbance, get off their case.
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