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11/25/2009:

Should the city bypass these violations?

Following up on yet another Hoboken411 reader tip – I was told this SUV on the corner of 8th and Garden received a parking ticket yesterday – despite the fact that there was no yellow paint on the curb, nor any signage indicating that it was an illegal parking spot.

While it’s NJ law that parking 25 feet from an intersection is a parking violation, isn’t it the city’s responsibility to make that clear? If they have failed to indicate that with proper signage or yellow paint, do they have the right to summons this vehicle? (PS – the car had a sticker and wasn’t parked on the street-cleaning side.)

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27 Responses to ** A non-enforceable parking violation? **

For common safety and the common good, use common sense.

truth yeah right..commen sense is to make a call to the dept of nj dot or email them…get the facts..the city is snowblinding u people.

In response to truth1 who said:

For common safety and the common good, use common sense.

while it’s nice for the city to clearly state it with a sign or yellow paint, it’s not required.

one of the things i noticed in NJ is a lot of drivers don’t know some very basic laws, and they are lucky because they are rarely enforced. If you have your windshield wipers on, you have to have your headlights on (the idea is that if it’s raining, it’s lower visibility and the lights make you more visible on the road).

i constantly see people driving during the day in the rain with no headlights on.

it’s the driver’s responsibility to know the laws. they don’t post “no turn on red” at every intersection in NYC. but everyone knows about it because they enforce it.

we might need a sign that tells pedestrians that they aren’t allowed to just cross at will though.

a guy a couple weeks ago wanted to cross when I was behind a white car. no stop sign for us. the white car goes through the intersection, and even though I’m right there, this guy decides to keep walking (probably assuming I’ll be happy to slam on my brakes for him). when I didn’t stop, he started yelling and cursing at me. cars must yield, but that means if there is a safe stopping distance and the ped is already crossing. if the ped is on the sidewalk and not crossing, they shouldn’t be assuming cars are stopping. Darwinism….

In response to Hoboken16 who said:

Areed homeworld. It’s a law. Do we need signs that say yield to pedestrians at every crosswalk? No, it’s something that was supposed to be learned when you got your license.

Do I have every driving law memorized? No, but I use common sense to determine if I should do something before I do it. People are too eager to blame others, when they themselves are the ones to blame.

it’s funny, you’re right. that’s hardly the worst park job. but if they’re going to accomplish anything they need to enforce it. i saw a cop ticket one guy on one of the corners one night. i asked him out of curiosity why he picked that car.

he said he was responding to a call and trying to turn from jefferson onto first, and he had a hard time making the turn with the guy parked on the southeast corner of 1st and jefferson. so after his call, he came back, and wrote the ticket.

he said he’s reasonable about it, and didn’t see the need to ticket the other cars that were also close to the intersection since they weren’t blocking turns.

but though he’s right, it causes confusion. people move here and see cars parked to the corner on every corner, and only 1 of 8 cars gets a ticket because that’s the one most in the way of traffic?

i have noticed in my 5 or so years here that they enforce it more during the school year because kids are walking through town.

In response to mooshu who said:

I’m usually biased about this topic. These monster vehicles make my tummy turn and belong in a show or a P. Diddy video, not on the street. And I hate when they’re double parked more than anything else!

I get the common sense stuff. But to be fair, I don’t think this vehicle is horribly parked. Maybe it’s because I’ve seen far worse, instances where I couldn’t see oncoming traffic?

Ah,well…

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/manuals/chap_04_15.html

Unless directed to do so by a police officer or to avoid an accident, a motorist should never stop or park at any of the following places:

* On a crosswalk
* Between a safety zone for pedestrians and the adjacent curb or within 20 feet of the end of the safety zone
* Near properly marked street construction
* In a space on public or private property marked for vehicle parking for the handicapped (unless legally authorized)
* On an interstate highway
* On a sidewalk
* In a bus stop zone
* In front of a public or private driveway
* Within an intersection
* Within 10 feet of a fire hydrant
* Within 25 feet of a crosswalk at an intersection, or side line of a street or intersection highway, except at alleys
* Within 50 feet of a railroad crossing
* Within 50 feet of a stop sign
* Within 20 feet of the driveway entrance to any fire station and within 75 feet on the street opposite a fire station entrance
* On any bridge or elevated roadway or in any tunnel
* Next to another vehicle parked at the curb (double parking)
* In an area where parking is prohibited by municipal ordinance

In response to hoboken411 who said:

@Hoboken16: While the NJ drivers manual says specifically “do not block crosswalks,” it doesn’t mention parking # number of feet from an intersection.

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/About/manuals.htm

the recent one is you must use a hands free device. that doesn’t mean an earpiece.

and i think it’s illegal everywhere to wear headphones for a music device. that’s just retarded anyways if it’s not illegal.

In response to escaped68 who said:

I’m far from being any type of expert on motor vehicle law, not counting paying tickets,but I am sure of one thing there has got to be plenty of laws on the books that are unenforceable. It seems that a lot of the blowhards on the state assembly like to have their name attached to almost anything and also to placate some big donor with a pet peeve about some parking problem. The law book must be huge. My favorite is the recent one where you must use a earpiece on your mobile phone while driving but a few years ago the blowhards passed a law stating you can not use any type of earpieces to listen to your personal music. You are dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t.

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21. truth1
November 28th 2009 - 09:21:12 |

For common safety and the common good, use common sense.

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22. wiskeytango1
November 28th 2009 - 12:37:06 |

truth yeah right..commen sense is to make a call to the dept of nj dot or email them…get the facts..the city is snowblinding u people.

In response to truth1 who said:

For common safety and the common good, use common sense.

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23. bradykp
December 4th 2009 - 12:58:04 |

while it’s nice for the city to clearly state it with a sign or yellow paint, it’s not required.

one of the things i noticed in NJ is a lot of drivers don’t know some very basic laws, and they are lucky because they are rarely enforced. If you have your windshield wipers on, you have to have your headlights on (the idea is that if it’s raining, it’s lower visibility and the lights make you more visible on the road).

i constantly see people driving during the day in the rain with no headlights on.

it’s the driver’s responsibility to know the laws. they don’t post “no turn on red” at every intersection in NYC. but everyone knows about it because they enforce it.

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24. bradykp
December 4th 2009 - 13:03:44 |

we might need a sign that tells pedestrians that they aren’t allowed to just cross at will though.

a guy a couple weeks ago wanted to cross when I was behind a white car. no stop sign for us. the white car goes through the intersection, and even though I’m right there, this guy decides to keep walking (probably assuming I’ll be happy to slam on my brakes for him). when I didn’t stop, he started yelling and cursing at me. cars must yield, but that means if there is a safe stopping distance and the ped is already crossing. if the ped is on the sidewalk and not crossing, they shouldn’t be assuming cars are stopping. Darwinism….

In response to Hoboken16 who said:

Areed homeworld. It’s a law. Do we need signs that say yield to pedestrians at every crosswalk? No, it’s something that was supposed to be learned when you got your license.

Do I have every driving law memorized? No, but I use common sense to determine if I should do something before I do it. People are too eager to blame others, when they themselves are the ones to blame.

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25. bradykp
December 4th 2009 - 13:09:30 |

it’s funny, you’re right. that’s hardly the worst park job. but if they’re going to accomplish anything they need to enforce it. i saw a cop ticket one guy on one of the corners one night. i asked him out of curiosity why he picked that car.

he said he was responding to a call and trying to turn from jefferson onto first, and he had a hard time making the turn with the guy parked on the southeast corner of 1st and jefferson. so after his call, he came back, and wrote the ticket.

he said he’s reasonable about it, and didn’t see the need to ticket the other cars that were also close to the intersection since they weren’t blocking turns.

but though he’s right, it causes confusion. people move here and see cars parked to the corner on every corner, and only 1 of 8 cars gets a ticket because that’s the one most in the way of traffic?

i have noticed in my 5 or so years here that they enforce it more during the school year because kids are walking through town.

In response to mooshu who said:

I’m usually biased about this topic. These monster vehicles make my tummy turn and belong in a show or a P. Diddy video, not on the street. And I hate when they’re double parked more than anything else!

I get the common sense stuff. But to be fair, I don’t think this vehicle is horribly parked. Maybe it’s because I’ve seen far worse, instances where I couldn’t see oncoming traffic?

Ah,well…

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26. bradykp
December 4th 2009 - 13:30:21 |

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/manuals/chap_04_15.html

Unless directed to do so by a police officer or to avoid an accident, a motorist should never stop or park at any of the following places:

* On a crosswalk
* Between a safety zone for pedestrians and the adjacent curb or within 20 feet of the end of the safety zone
* Near properly marked street construction
* In a space on public or private property marked for vehicle parking for the handicapped (unless legally authorized)
* On an interstate highway
* On a sidewalk
* In a bus stop zone
* In front of a public or private driveway
* Within an intersection
* Within 10 feet of a fire hydrant
* Within 25 feet of a crosswalk at an intersection, or side line of a street or intersection highway, except at alleys
* Within 50 feet of a railroad crossing
* Within 50 feet of a stop sign
* Within 20 feet of the driveway entrance to any fire station and within 75 feet on the street opposite a fire station entrance
* On any bridge or elevated roadway or in any tunnel
* Next to another vehicle parked at the curb (double parking)
* In an area where parking is prohibited by municipal ordinance

In response to hoboken411 who said:

@Hoboken16: While the NJ drivers manual says specifically “do not block crosswalks,” it doesn’t mention parking # number of feet from an intersection.

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/About/manuals.htm

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27. bradykp
December 4th 2009 - 13:34:42 |

the recent one is you must use a hands free device. that doesn’t mean an earpiece.

and i think it’s illegal everywhere to wear headphones for a music device. that’s just retarded anyways if it’s not illegal.

In response to escaped68 who said:

I’m far from being any type of expert on motor vehicle law, not counting paying tickets,but I am sure of one thing there has got to be plenty of laws on the books that are unenforceable. It seems that a lot of the blowhards on the state assembly like to have their name attached to almost anything and also to placate some big donor with a pet peeve about some parking problem. The law book must be huge. My favorite is the recent one where you must use a earpiece on your mobile phone while driving but a few years ago the blowhards passed a law stating you can not use any type of earpieces to listen to your personal music. You are dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t.

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