Hoboken Scooter & Motorcycle parking

6/5/2010 Update:

HPU says Scooters need permits too

Spotted these two Hoboken Parking Utility employees along 10th Street the other day – they were checking out the vehicle in front of the scooter, and they said that those scooters also need parking permits. However, as Hoboken411 reader KB said in the comments section – they cannot use the RFID benefits of the sticker, because riders are told to “just hang on to the permit” and they call the plates in manually to check for valid permit status.

There has to be a way to require all vehicles to have an RFID sticker – even if it’s not visible on the exterior.

See previous updates after the jump!

11/24/2009:

What’s the deal with motorized bikes?

Hoboken411 has received many emails from various residents wondering about scooters and motorcycles in town. While I certainly don’t have a problem with them, many have complained about how they take up the same room as a regular parking spot, are parked illegally, or don’t have any kind of visible parking permit.

While Hoboken City Code doesn’t have specific wording about scooters or motorcycles and parking permits – it does say that all “motor vehicles” require parking permits, and so on. And since scooters and motorcycles are licensed vehicles, one would assume they fall under that code.

What about permits? Or special parking zones?

I thought about how permits would be handled for bikes like these – because in order to adhere it to the wind-screen or elsewhere visibly on the bike, they’d immediately be susceptible to theft. So where would one stick it? In a storage compartment? That’d be easily picked up by the RFID scanners the HPU uses to verify permit possession. Then again, we all know the HPU still boots cars with stickers in plain sight, so it’s essentially a moot point.

What about special parking zones on each street just for scooters and motorcycles? Perhaps a spot about 1/2 or 2/3rd’s the size of a standard spot – make it “motorcycle and scooter parking only,” with lines painted appropriately. Heck, you could even put them nearer to intersections, since they don’t block the view (as much as giant SUV’s, etc.)

Again, I have no issue with our two-wheeled cousins, but some residents do – so what changes (if any) would you make?

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8 Comments on "Hoboken Scooter & Motorcycle parking"

FMTVENG
Member

simple solution, devise an RFID ‘fob’ much like those that many of the apartments in town use, that either is affixed using the same screw as the license plate, or something that takes the place of said screw (think like those reflectors with screws on the back that people use in place of a license plate screw, only instead of a reflector the top this would contain the RFID transponder. example at http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/dir/large_img.php?id=24930 )

this isn’t rocket science.

TeddyRed
Member
TeddyRed

I like the idea of sliding scale parking fees in relation to size of the vehicle. In some states, a vehicles registration costs are based on how much the vehicle weighs. At parking garages, you will typically pay more for an SUV than you would a Smart Car. Why not do the same with the parking permits?

jspencer
Member
jspencer

Not sure how it works in Hoboken but in some places like Boston, where I live, motorcycles and scooters are *required* to occupy a full space and can be ticketed or towed for doubling/tripling up within a single space. We are trying to get the city to change this, but nothing happens quickly in a municipal bureaucracy.

They get tangled up in questions like how much should 2-wheel vehicles be charged, which of the 5 vehicles in a spot should be ticketed if the meter runs out, where to put a sticker on a scooter if they institute a yearly permit arrangement, etc.

The good part of the story is that the traffic commissioner seems interested in helping, so it might actually happen next year.

Jon

plywood
Member
plywood

I don’t really think that the majority of Hobokener are against motorcycles / scooters per se, but the way mainstream media works, the few bad apples get 90% of the ink.

plywood
Member
plywood

I for one have always thought that vehicular parking permits should be on a sliding fee scale based on the length of the vehicle. Plenty of SUVs in Hoboken that never have more than one or two people in them (oddly, usually on a cell phone).

There are a nice handful of “hurray for me and the h*ll with you” persons who use a motorcycle or scooter parked parallel to the curb centered between two cars 20 feet apart to hold a spot for when they get back with their car. They then move the bike perpendicular to the curb at one or the other end of the twenty foot span and take the ensuing car spot. Yes, motorcycle permits should be at a discount compared to vehicles, but if the parking authority sees a bike parked parallel to the curb like this they should just impound it. It’s really rude.

If the parking authority really wanted a windfall, start enforcing no talking on a handheld while driving regulations.

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