Quiznos – Doomed
3/5/2009:
Hoboken411 reader Anne noticed yesterday that the chain sub shop Quizno’s had suddenly shut down!
What’s next?
What? How Come? So suddenly?
“Closed! The inside was dark at 2:00 pm Wednesday, door locked, there’s a really big sign on the front door and another on the window that says, “Retail Space Available” with contact info. Some of the interior Quiznos decor appeared to have been removed.
I just called the non-emergency # for the Hoboken PD and asked if the closing was due to a break in/robbery, and the officer said no, he had not heard anything about any robbery or that Quiznos had closed at all. (I thought that was odd because the store is a stone’s throw from the Police Station on Hudson, I have seen many officers eating in there at lunch.)
I know Quiznos is a franchise, and lately there were some issues with corporate and the franchisees, but nothing serious enough that it could be directly attriubted to this location closing abruptly. I went there regularily for the past 2 years, and if anything, the store was busier recently than in the past. (Usually stores that go out of business have a drop off in customers, quality, etc, first indicating a problem.) I didn’t notice any such issues at Quiznos recently. Link to their corportate update.
I looked on the net, and I couldn’t find any articles or any blog postings talking about what happened at all.
Have you heard anything?“
4/11/2006:
artery clogging “sauces”
Description – Fast Food
Services – subs, sandwiches, soup
Website – www.quiznos.com
Address – 100 Hudson St, Hoboken, NJ 07030
Telephone – 201-656-2280
70 Responses to ** Quiznos – Doomed **
March 6th, 2009 |
In response to mooshu who said:
I haven’t been there since they moved from Blimpie Base #1 at 7th and Washington. Guess I could buy a Blimpie’s sandwich then step on it myself to get that Quiznos touch. Or, just get a real sandwich at Lisa’s.
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March 6th, 2009 |
Re: Ken
Gee, you mean rock-hard-bread Lisa’s?
I’m not a die-hard fan of Blimpie– haven’t been there in five years. Just agreed with strand’s comment is all!
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March 6th, 2009 |
In response to Sidd Finch who said:
That Rutherford Five Guys has been moving at a snail’s pace. I’m wondering if it’s ever really going to open.
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March 6th, 2009 |
In hoboken or drippy nose iowa, a shit sandwich is still a shit sandwich. They all are portion controled and prepackaged meat of undetermined orgin.
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March 6th, 2009 |
Let’s be fair. Blimpies, at least for the sandwiches I order, deli-slices the meat to order. Its a good sandwich, esp. if you get the double meat, but then it starts to really add up. But worth it if you have a $10 lunch/ dinner budget (by buying the beverage elsewhere). Subway ( I go to the one by Marine View), is only five dollars for a foot-long right now, so not expensive, but an average come below average sandwich. Totally pre-portioned, a bad move in a town with no shortage of “authentic” delis. Lisa’s is good, but if there is more than one or two people waiting, you had better not be in a hurry to leave. I find Vito’s to be a better “local” option on both speed and accuracy over Lisa’s. My guess is the deal on Quiznos is either a corporate downsizing or they couldn’t swing the rent, especially in the midst of so much direct competition. An unappealing/cramped by the door (that constantly opens) seating area didn’t help. They also had challenges moving a line. OT / BTW – will someone tell the district manager for Chock Full of Nuts by the post office that from a distance the store always looks closed? Something about the lighting…….
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March 6th, 2009 |
Excellent post, plywood. And I agree with the Chock Full of Nuts observation, too!
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March 6th, 2009 |
P.S. The reason why I never really go to Subway or Blimpie is that I prefer to make my own sandwiches. They’re both okay, but I feel that I can do a decent job myself.
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March 6th, 2009 |
Mooshu – I agree in large measure about making sandwiches at home. The reason I go to Blimpies is they at least have the last hurrah in Hoboken for a decent pastrami sandwich, which I can not make at home. Maybe it’s because of the federal “Wild Pastrami Protection Initiative”, but I can’t even find pastrami in the Hoboken supermarkets. Can I get a witness?
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March 6th, 2009 |
OT – here’s what I like about Chock Full o’ Nuts in Hoboken. Years ago, Manhattan was full of these antique Chock Full o’ Nuts installs that hadn’t been remodeled in 30 or 40 years. You could tell they had changed the coffee machine, deli counter cases, new heating system that didn’t fit quite right, etc., etc, without remodeling. Individual cereals and the like were off in a corner somewhere behind a too huge employee area where you couldn’t even see them, had to ask the counter person what they had on hand. Sort of like Schnackenbergs, but a high ceilinged chain store “coffee shop” (no “e” on the end of “shop”). Well, the Chock Full o’ Nuts in Hoboken is only a few years old, but it has that same mystique, like it’s been there forever scraping by without any remodeling budget. The layout is challenged, the lighting is bad, the counter help is congenial, they remember your order from the last time, maybe a little small talk. A little taste of old school neighborhood Manhattan in Hoboken. Maybe it’s just me. Sorry for the rambling.
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March 7th, 2009 |
If you want a real sandwich with real ingredients, 1st street deli is a good choice, and the owner is a very nice guy.
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March 7th, 2009 |
Folks, you are loosing site of the real problem. Many there have been many business closings in town because they can’t make enough income and pay the high rents. Things will get worse as the economy worsens. To high taxes ensure owners of these buildings can’t charge rental rates that sustain the business community. In addition high tax rates cause people to move out of town because they can’t afford their taxes, the increased rents due to the taxes, or their mortgage payments. The net result is a decreased tax base to pay for ever increasing city budgets. etc, etc, etc,. The loop continues and eventually you have a dead town. This is what is going on and the city doesn’t want to wake up to the fact that unless they cut expenses this is the future. You can redevelop all you want, but no matter how much you bring in it never is enough to overcome the effects of bad government. Additional revenue streams will just be used to purchase more votes and the cycle will continue with the same end result. This is why we have to reform, cut taxes, and make city government more efficient and cost effective. There is no easy way out of this mess our government has created. Sadly, they are either in denial, or can’t see that yet and are making the situation worse.
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March 7th, 2009 |
In response to davidcdavid64 who said:
one business opens, another closes
don’t blame bad govt for bad, over priced sandwiches
a new business will open and the cycle will continue
offer a good deal, a good product and you will thrive
didn’t the president say “endure and find opportunity”?
get with the program!
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March 8th, 2009 |
Guy, look around you. Look at the number of empty storefronts in town. look at the number of for rent signs. If you can’t see them I can’t help you. What a landlord has to charge in rent is directly related to the tax rate because he/her has to cover expenses. In a declining economy with less disposable income less money gets spent in stores. Therefore, the store can’t make enough profit and leaves. I hope I’ve managed to dumb the topic down enough for you to understand. Now add to that a whopping 47% tax increase and I’ll bet even you can understand. We can even imagine we work in a town with a large number of people in the financial services sector which is experiencing the worst of the job losses and they were high income jobs. Therefore, the effect is magnified. Please feel free to write back if this is a bit over your head as I’ll be happy to further explain for you.Now imagine that what happens to a store (closing) with reduced cash flow What happens to a family with lowered income and greatly increased expenses (taxes). they are spending more than earning, so they must “close”. That means move to a place they can afford. Are you getting the thread yet, because I can explain more for you. At this point I’d imagine those who I’d like to reach understand, but I’d be happy to help you out if you need it. This is one reason one party in Washington preaches the effect of tax cuts to stimulate the economy in recession. Does this sound at all familiar yet? It is why you don’t raise taxes in a recession if you want to get things going again, but we added a 47% burden to each and every homeowner in this town. At this point even I can’t dumb it down any more, so you’ll just have to live with it.
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March 8th, 2009 |
It’s a good thing that we bailed out the banks in October to avoid everything davidcdavid64 is talking about.
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March 8th, 2009 |
David, you are trying to explain something that it’s not so complex after all; the problem is that the low IQs holders are perhaps the free loaders who are not interested to know that they are part of the problem now. These are the few who are going to vote for Cammarano.
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March 8th, 2009 |
How many of those storefronts are vacant b/c some landlord jacked up the rent to an obscene level? A certain bar many of us all loved closed for this very reason almost a year ago and that place is still vacant last I checked.
And homeworld – things would be so much worse if we hadn’t extended credit to the banks. Just imagine if all the banks that got no bailout money ALSO closed. That was the risk. Those loans weren’t made to save the banks, but to insure the banks didn’t default on their trades with their counterparties. AIG (probably the biggest “problem child”) isn’t being bailed out, it is being stabilized and it will be sold off in pieces – that company is effectively a dead company. The government just wants to make sure that when it dies, it doesn’t kill everyone else at the same time.
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March 8th, 2009 |
This town is death to small business… the only way to survive here is to own the building. I am still curious as to the whole story about T&J’s though. What sane person would raise the rent on a thriving business, in essence evicting them, only to let the building lie fallow for a year? Income vs. no income? Strange. Maybe something personal between Gerry and the owner… who knows.
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March 8th, 2009 |
If you own the building and have the business you’re Ok for the time being. But what happens after the reval. It’s going to happen, force up the rest of the rents, and you’ll see more empty stores. You’ll also see more empty apts, because then it won’t only be the yuppies forced out, but the old timers will be in trouble to. That’s why I’m always amazed when I see them stand behind policies that aren’t in their long term best interest. The think they are protecting themselves by voting against the reformers, but in the end they will be forcing themselves out unless spending and entitlements are decreased. eventually everybody gets screwed.
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March 8th, 2009 |
In response to davidcdavid64 who said:
It might be just me, but some people here like to treat as idiots those who disagree with them.
David: You are not arguing about an established scientific fact, but you are providing others with an opinion of what could be the reason for businesses to fail. It is your opinions, others might see it differently. I, for one, do not agree with your analysis.
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March 8th, 2009 |
In response to jscirish27 who said:
If I remember correctly, the landlord wanted the owners of the bar to sign over the liquor license or some such nonsense. I can’t blame them for saying fu*k it, lets shut it down. Now I bet we get a nail salon. I hope the landlord defaults on his mortgage…….I miss that place and wish nothing but bad luck on the owner of that building.
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