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		<title>By: a_siren</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/31580/comment-page-3#comment-179657</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a WT resident, and I too thought this was another example of a FU design statement to the neighborhood.  Ah well. And no, not all neighbors within 200 feet got notice.  I did not. 

My understanding is the architect and the client here are one and the same.  I haven&#039;t met him yet though.  

There are some beautiful houses on WT, and there are some that need work. Every street in Hoboken has places that need work.   All in all WT has been a wonderful place to live.  The neighbors are typically friendly, keep an eye out for each other, and the ambience is charming.  Also, the location couldn&#039;t be more convenient to the A&amp;P and to the 126 bus on Willow/Clinton.&lt;!--begin reply--&gt;
		
		&lt;span class=&quot;in_response_to&quot;&gt;In response to dunotar who said:&lt;/span&gt;
		&lt;div class=&quot;replied_to_style&quot;&gt;It would seem that the ZBA was asleep at the till on this one - it&#039;s their purview, not the historic commission&#039;s.

Local zoning requires structures to be built of a HUGE percentage of masonry - not wood.  Another example of more variances for the well-connected bestowed by the ill-informed and uneducated.

Good urban architecture is all about context and this can be used as a textbook example in architectural school of what not to do in a tiny village. These townhouses don&#039;t exist in a vacuum. This is a royal FU design statement to the neighborhood and the city from an architect (&amp; his client)with huge egos and apparent connections to the code officials as referenced in post # 67.  Expect to see more of it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--end reply--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a WT resident, and I too thought this was another example of a FU design statement to the neighborhood.  Ah well. And no, not all neighbors within 200 feet got notice.  I did not. </p>
<p>My understanding is the architect and the client here are one and the same.  I haven&#8217;t met him yet though.  </p>
<p>There are some beautiful houses on WT, and there are some that need work. Every street in Hoboken has places that need work.   All in all WT has been a wonderful place to live.  The neighbors are typically friendly, keep an eye out for each other, and the ambience is charming.  Also, the location couldn&#8217;t be more convenient to the A&amp;P and to the 126 bus on Willow/Clinton.<!--begin reply--></p>
<p>		<span class="in_response_to">In response to dunotar who said:</span></p>
<div class="replied_to_style">It would seem that the ZBA was asleep at the till on this one &#8211; it&#8217;s their purview, not the historic commission&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Local zoning requires structures to be built of a HUGE percentage of masonry &#8211; not wood.  Another example of more variances for the well-connected bestowed by the ill-informed and uneducated.</p>
<p>Good urban architecture is all about context and this can be used as a textbook example in architectural school of what not to do in a tiny village. These townhouses don&#8217;t exist in a vacuum. This is a royal FU design statement to the neighborhood and the city from an architect (&amp; his client)with huge egos and apparent connections to the code officials as referenced in post # 67.  Expect to see more of it.</p>
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		<title>By: dunotar</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem that the ZBA was asleep at the till on this one - it&#039;s their purview, not the historic commission&#039;s.

Local zoning requires structures to be built of a HUGE percentage of masonry - not wood.  Another example of more variances for the well-connected bestowed by the ill-informed and uneducated.

Good urban architecture is all about context and this can be used as a textbook example in architectural school of what not to do in a tiny village. These townhouses don&#039;t exist in a vacuum. This is a royal FU design statement to the neighborhood and the city from an architect (&amp; his client)with huge egos and apparent connections to the code officials as referenced in post # 67.  Expect to see more of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem that the ZBA was asleep at the till on this one &#8211; it&#8217;s their purview, not the historic commission&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Local zoning requires structures to be built of a HUGE percentage of masonry &#8211; not wood.  Another example of more variances for the well-connected bestowed by the ill-informed and uneducated.</p>
<p>Good urban architecture is all about context and this can be used as a textbook example in architectural school of what not to do in a tiny village. These townhouses don&#8217;t exist in a vacuum. This is a royal FU design statement to the neighborhood and the city from an architect (&amp; his client)with huge egos and apparent connections to the code officials as referenced in post # 67.  Expect to see more of it.</p>
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		<title>By: lady411</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To call it an eyesore is extreme. It would be much more of a travesty if it were finished like the hundreds of other developments in Hoboken. I understand that some close minded people fear the unknown, but open your mind. Modern art/architecture is often criticised, but it is the bold artists and designers that push the envelope who change perception and advance culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To call it an eyesore is extreme. It would be much more of a travesty if it were finished like the hundreds of other developments in Hoboken. I understand that some close minded people fear the unknown, but open your mind. Modern art/architecture is often criticised, but it is the bold artists and designers that push the envelope who change perception and advance culture.</p>
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		<title>By: HoboDev</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/31580/comment-page-3#comment-179567</link>
		<dc:creator>HoboDev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Historic District-NOT, most of those places look terrible, sometimes history should not be repeated! It&#039;s there and it&#039;s much better than the original derelict that stood there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Historic District-NOT, most of those places look terrible, sometimes history should not be repeated! It&#8217;s there and it&#8217;s much better than the original derelict that stood there.</p>
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		<title>By: homeworld</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately this area is located in the Central Hoboken
Historic District, an area only deemed an &quot;Eligible Historic District,&quot; therefore not under the jurisdiction of the Historic Preservation Commission.

The Historic Preservation Commission is only for the Southern Hoboken Historic District and specific buildings outside of that District.&lt;!--begin reply--&gt;
		
		&lt;span class=&quot;in_response_to&quot;&gt;In response to DavidsSling who said:&lt;/span&gt;
		&lt;div class=&quot;replied_to_style&quot;&gt;The issue is this is a historical section - they must get approval from the Historic Preservation Commission - this is the second modern building that was allowed and I am sure neither of them went through proper procedure because they do not fit in with the character of Willow Terrace. But Hoboken does not follow the law

I like the building -just not there&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--end reply--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately this area is located in the Central Hoboken<br />
Historic District, an area only deemed an &#8220;Eligible Historic District,&#8221; therefore not under the jurisdiction of the Historic Preservation Commission.</p>
<p>The Historic Preservation Commission is only for the Southern Hoboken Historic District and specific buildings outside of that District.<!--begin reply--></p>
<p>		<span class="in_response_to">In response to DavidsSling who said:</span></p>
<div class="replied_to_style">The issue is this is a historical section &#8211; they must get approval from the Historic Preservation Commission &#8211; this is the second modern building that was allowed and I am sure neither of them went through proper procedure because they do not fit in with the character of Willow Terrace. But Hoboken does not follow the law</p>
<p>I like the building -just not there</p>
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		<title>By: DavidsSling</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/31580/comment-page-3#comment-179469</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidsSling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is this is a historical section - they must get approval from the Historic Preservation Commission - this is the second modern building that was allowed and I am sure neither of them went through proper procedure because they do not fit in with the character of Willow Terrace. But Hoboken does not follow the law

I like the building -just not there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is this is a historical section &#8211; they must get approval from the Historic Preservation Commission &#8211; this is the second modern building that was allowed and I am sure neither of them went through proper procedure because they do not fit in with the character of Willow Terrace. But Hoboken does not follow the law</p>
<p>I like the building -just not there</p>
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		<title>By: plywood</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh that&#039;s right that last guy pulled through, but he&#039;ll never play the violin again&lt;!--begin reply--&gt;
		
		&lt;span class=&quot;in_response_to&quot;&gt;In response to yourbrainondrugs who said:&lt;/span&gt;
		&lt;div class=&quot;replied_to_style&quot;&gt;Be fair that hasnt happened since 2008..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--end reply--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh that&#8217;s right that last guy pulled through, but he&#8217;ll never play the violin again<!--begin reply--></p>
<p>		<span class="in_response_to">In response to yourbrainondrugs who said:</span></p>
<div class="replied_to_style">Be fair that hasnt happened since 2008..</div>
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		<title>By: yourbrainondrugs</title>
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		<dc:creator>yourbrainondrugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be fair that hasnt happened since 2008..&lt;!--begin reply--&gt;
		
		&lt;span class=&quot;in_response_to&quot;&gt;In response to plywood who said:&lt;/span&gt;
		&lt;div class=&quot;replied_to_style&quot;&gt;Aw, c&#039;mon, in Hoboken they shoot people just to watch&#039;em die.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--end reply--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be fair that hasnt happened since 2008..<!--begin reply--></p>
<p>		<span class="in_response_to">In response to plywood who said:</span></p>
<div class="replied_to_style">Aw, c&#8217;mon, in Hoboken they shoot people just to watch&#8217;em die.</div>
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		<title>By: plywood</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw, c&#039;mon, in Hoboken they shoot people just to watch&#039;em die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, c&#8217;mon, in Hoboken they shoot people just to watch&#8217;em die.</p>
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		<title>By: The Unblinking Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Unblinking Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, being a WT Resident I guess I ought to comment on this.
Let me start by saying that although it is an interesting project,I think it would look AMAZING in the woods or on one of the walk streets in Venice,CA or as others have said, at a ski resort.  That being said I think it looks completely out of place on WT.  Most of you also seem to miss the point that only people who have the corner lots are able to really do something different with their places.  The rest of us not on the corner don&#039;t have much room to expand or do much.  Yes there are old vinal sided crappy looking homes on WT.... that is becasue the people in them are B &amp; R&#039;s who are still living there or have rented them out to 3 guys or gals &amp; do nothing but collect rent checks. They will never fix them up.
As they sell, they are updated to be quaint, nice little places. A BIG point that I don&#039;t see people questioning is just how was this place able to go up so fast????  How did a certain individual (most of you know who I mean)approve &amp; allow all of this???  Most people have to wait ages to do simple things like re-do a bathroom.  I&#039;ve seen places of business put thru the ringer for a year to open. This house seems to have gotten carte blanche to do whatever they wanted....and have!  
PLUS - as some have said, I sure the builder did NOT included any of the neighbors because why should he???  That&#039;s the way people are these days. They don&#039;t give a damm &amp; do whatever the hell they want.  Progress is great but developers need to be a bit more sensitive to a towns cuture &amp; history</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, being a WT Resident I guess I ought to comment on this.<br />
Let me start by saying that although it is an interesting project,I think it would look AMAZING in the woods or on one of the walk streets in Venice,CA or as others have said, at a ski resort.  That being said I think it looks completely out of place on WT.  Most of you also seem to miss the point that only people who have the corner lots are able to really do something different with their places.  The rest of us not on the corner don&#8217;t have much room to expand or do much.  Yes there are old vinal sided crappy looking homes on WT&#8230;. that is becasue the people in them are B &amp; R&#8217;s who are still living there or have rented them out to 3 guys or gals &amp; do nothing but collect rent checks. They will never fix them up.<br />
As they sell, they are updated to be quaint, nice little places. A BIG point that I don&#8217;t see people questioning is just how was this place able to go up so fast????  How did a certain individual (most of you know who I mean)approve &amp; allow all of this???  Most people have to wait ages to do simple things like re-do a bathroom.  I&#8217;ve seen places of business put thru the ringer for a year to open. This house seems to have gotten carte blanche to do whatever they wanted&#8230;.and have!<br />
PLUS &#8211; as some have said, I sure the builder did NOT included any of the neighbors because why should he???  That&#8217;s the way people are these days. They don&#8217;t give a damm &amp; do whatever the hell they want.  Progress is great but developers need to be a bit more sensitive to a towns cuture &amp; history</p>
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