Survey: Hoboken Waterfront Path

9/25/2009:

Hoboken411 reader Brian is an avid city-cyclist in town – and has reached a tipping point about several bike-related issues. See his story – and take the survey below.

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Hoboken isn’t as bike friendly as you’d think

“Like many Hobokenites, I travel to and from the Path station by bike each day and find riding along the waterfront paved section of pathway a daily challenge and an accident waiting to happen. Our city planners never put on their thinking caps when they planned the paved path and the cobble stone areas closest to the river. Currently there are fading minuscule bike paint markers on the paved path and conflicting “yield to pedestrian” signage at three intersecting ramp ways from Sinatra Drive at 1st , 2nd & 3rd streets.

Based on the level of reader participation recently in the piece about Hoboken’s new bike lanes which I jumped onto and introduced concerns along the waterfront pathway as well as the problem with retractable dog leashes.

Not a day goes buy unfortunately that I feel as if I am in a mine field on that Pathway! How many workers come off the Path or NJ Transit in the a.m. and drift up the path towards the buildings along the waterfront; yet they walk with headphones and eyes looking down and many of these zombie workers walk across the full width of the path. My bike bell seems to have no interest to them, other then some stupid half witted comment such as I heard this morning (something about faggot on his bike). Do I try a whistle instead, would that get them to react. Quality of life and safety for all.

So, to help us perhaps gain awareness along the waterfront paths perhaps we could ask your readers what they would do and maybe structure in 2 parts:

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If you use the Hoboken Waterfront as part of your daily commute - You primarily:

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If you Walk, which part do you walk on?

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IF you chose the "PAVED section" - did you know this is for both Pedestrians and Bicycles?

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IF you chose the "PAVED section" - how do you respond to bikers that use bells or other methods to get your attention?

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The point is that we need to gain awareness and try to figure how best to avoid accidents. I would love to take these results to both city hall and the council meetings before someone gets seriously hurt.

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Red Haven
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Red Haven

The paved portion of the walkway was designed for people on wheels, not those walking on foot. Since the city has neglected to repaint the symbols on the path, it is not as obvious as it should be that this is a Bike lane (and also an inline skating lane).

I have been told that there is a fund for maintaining the walkway and Pier A Park that comes from a form of tax/surcharge on the buildings that are part of the Port Authority development. Where is this money going? Obviously not to refreshing the markings.

I fully support Brian in his effort to straighten this out.

Bottom line: People riding bikes don’t belong on sidewalks, and pedestrians don’t belong in the Bike/skate lane on the waterfront.

elainetyger
Member
elainetyger

When I am a pedestrian, I should not have to think about bikes any more than I think about cars. I’m talking about bikes on the sidewalk and bikes going the wrong way up a one-way street. Just 2 days ago, I was cursed out by a cyclist on the sidewalk in the middle of the block, going the wrong way on a one-way street to boot, who wouldn’t accept that “excuse me” didn’t mean I would get out of her way. She had no more business saying excuse me on the sidewalk than if she were in a Honda.

I put up with bikes when I’m driving, even though the streets in this town are so narrow that it means I have to go 10 miles an hour because bikers are weaving instead of keeping to one side near the parked cars.

Of course if you are a good cyclist, then I’m not talking about you because I don’t have to pay undue attention to you, and that’s how it should be.

realstuff
Member
realstuff

How about being considerate to others! Do we need sign pollution or just common sense? This is real ‘rocket science’ stuff. Let’s be humble…. are we greedy in our business dealings, in politics, love and in the market?…do we need to have a renewed perspective on life? Corruption, crime and lack of respect for others and loss of self-respect and discipline are the ills of our civilization today more than ever. I am preaching to all including myself.

plywood
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plywood

Amen. Unfortunately, without signs for something, most people will just move forward with their own agenda and when challenged say “I didn’t know” whether they did or not. And I don’t think we are veering in the right direction. 50 years from now, consider it possible that there will be “no murdering allowed” (probably with and ad or a mayor’s name on the bottom) signs after a prosecutor loses a legal challenge that “someone didn’t know that was illegal”. I will close as you so wisely did, by saying I am preaching to myself as well.

In response to realstuff who said:
How about being considerate to others! Do we need sign pollution or just common sense? This is real ‘rocket science’ stuff. Let’s be humble…. are we greedy in our business dealings, in politics, love and in the market?…do we need to have a renewed perspective on life? Corruption, crime and lack of respect for others and loss of self-respect and discipline are the ills of our civilization today more than ever. I am preaching to all including myself.

cyclewag
Member
cyclewag

We need to inform our city leadership as this falls within Qualtiy of Life. As our city continues to grow we need to learn how to live and get along with thy neighbor in a friendly, safe and courteous manner.
Contact your local council members and our mayoral candidates and lets get them involved.

dawnzimmer@gmail.com
beth@masoncitycouncil.org

homeworld
Member

Why doesn’t BETH use her government email address? She’s the only promoting transparency. Can I do an OPRA request on her .org private email?

In response to cyclewag who said:
We need to inform our city leadership as this falls within Qualtiy of Life. As our city continues to grow we need to learn how to live and get along with thy neighbor in a friendly, safe and courteous manner.
Contact your local council members and our mayoral candidates and lets get them involved.

dawnzimmer@gmail.com
beth@masoncitycouncil.org

MidnightRacer
Member

Everyone thinks they’re right.

I think many are naive, or just inconsiderate. some don’t even know it’s a bicycle lane and I question if such a short run should be one. But cyclists shouldn’t pretend their bicycles lack brakes. Pedestrians are air heads. And stroller nazis have begun their blitzkrieg of the town setting up blockades for the impending war.

The cyclists who complain about pedestrians eventually put their bikes away and become the pedestrians who complain about cars when jaywalking. When those pedestrians get into their cars, they complain about pedestrians, cyclists, and stroller nazis who feel entitled to be first.

There are 3 kinds of people in the world; censored, censored, and censored…

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