Senior Supermarket Shuttle

9/3/2009:

What budget cuts?

Much to the delight of Senior Citizens in Hoboken, the city of Hoboken has instituted a daily supermarket shuttle from various locations in town – even though both supermarkets offer delivery service.

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As you might remember, State Fiscal Monitor Judy Tripodi also eliminated the Crosstown Bus at the beginning of the year – but the city (along with new transportation guy Ian Sacs) have mentioned bringing that back as well.

The emails are starting to pick up from residents who have noticed how much the interim Mayor is spending during her short time in the corner office…

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37 Comments on "Senior Supermarket Shuttle"

escaped68
Member

What amazes me is how a simple bus ride , which is done all over the state, can generate some much bullshit and hate.

plywood
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plywood

Agreed sir. In turn, what amazes (and saddens) me, is how true Hoboken’s reputation as a national punchline can be.

In response to escaped68 who said:
What amazes me is how a simple bus ride , which is done all over the state, can generate some much bullshit and hate.

escaped68
Member

Matt72 and others like him, want to get rid of dogs that poop,seniors who shop, the projects, noisey motorcyles, and on&on. It brings to mind a old movie made during WW2, a propaganda style, where the minster speaks from the pulpit and says first they came for them and then they came for those and then asks, when are they going to come for me?

matt_72
Member

More like I just want people to pay their own bills instead of asking me to pay them. Seniors can shop to their heart’s content, just don’t ask me to pay for your ride there. The motorcycles are fine, just don’t disable the muffler or put “loud pipes” on that bike you ride to compensate for your lack of self-esteem. Dogs are fine, just pick up to poop because that is your mess, not mine. BNRs aren’t the problem, but the folks who voted for the corrupt people, enabled their corruption, pretended these folks were honest when they flat out knew they weren’t and in some cases traded votes for jobs & other favors are the problem. Those folks aren’t all BNRs (Petey wasn’t a BNR), but many are and it is foolish to pretend that their voting patterns aren’t what led to all the corruption that plagues Jersey.

As for me being angry, it couldn’t be farther from the truth. Once I have my coffee, I am just fine.

In response to escaped68 who said:
Matt72 and others like him, want to get rid of dogs that poop,seniors who shop, the projects, noisey motorcyles, and on&on. It brings to mind a old movie made during WW2, a propaganda style, where the minster speaks from the pulpit and says first they came for them and then they came for those and then asks, when are they going to come for me?

escaped68
Member

Why all this hatred, it’s a once a week bus ride to a local market.

In response to matt_72 who said:
More like I just want people to pay their own bills instead of asking me to pay them. Seniors can shop to their heart’s content, just don’t ask me to pay for your ride there. The motorcycles are fine, just don’t disable the muffler or put “loud pipes” on that bike you ride to compensate for your lack of self-esteem. Dogs are fine, just pick up to poop because that is your mess, not mine. BNRs aren’t the problem, but the folks who voted for the corrupt people, enabled their corruption, pretended these folks were honest when they flat out knew they weren’t and in some cases traded votes for jobs & other favors are the problem. Those folks aren’t all BNRs (Petey wasn’t a BNR), but many are and it is foolish to pretend that their voting patterns aren’t what led to all the corruption that plagues Jersey.

As for me being angry, it couldn’t be farther from the truth. Once I have my coffee, I am just fine.

matt_72
Member

No, it is a bus that will be running 5 days a week and staffed for call it 3 hours a day. Look at the schedule. This is another make work job that doesn’t need to exist.

In response to escaped68 who said:
Why all this hatred, it’s a once a week bus ride to a local market.

patssoxrevscelts
Member
patssoxrevscelts

So guage interest, plan a route only if there’s enough interest, and charge the breakeven amount. That’s how things are run. If you don’t like it, take 2 $5 cab rides to and from. If you don’t like it, walk. If you don’t like it, have them delivered. If you don’t like it, pay a school age child to do it for you. People should be able to figure these things out short of shelling out money for no return.

For fun, take a poll on the bus to see how many people pay the taxes that fund thier latest ‘free ride’.

In response to escaped68 who said:
Why all this hatred, it’s a once a week bus ride to a local market.

Yes.We.Can.
Member
Yes.We.Can.

A society that doesn’t care for its elderly isn’t worth a damn.

This shuttle runs 2x daily, weekdays only. So, stores “can deliver”? Well, seniors have to GET THERE first. And a $2 tip (or whatever the going rate is) may not seem like much to YOU, but for some choosing between buying food or paying for medicine, it is. And we all know that food prices have gone through the roof in the past 2 years or so.

Walking 10 or 12 blocks in the rain, cold, snow or extreme heat while uncomfortable for YOU, can be dangerous for the elderly. Well, why should you give a shit if it’s not your mom or dad? Isn’t that what you think?

SHAME on you complainers. A senior shuttle is not the reason for our whopping property tax increase increase, and you know it.

Don’t politicize this one.

matt_72
Member
WTF do you call social security, medicare and the fact that we have housing projects for the elderly? We spend more money on taking care of the elderly in this country than we can afford to, and if you do the math we spend far more on them than they every in their lives paid in payroll taxes (go ask any economist if you don’t believe it) so it isn’t like we are short changing them. If they need to get to the store, they can arrange to carpool together, but I am flat out tired of these endless handouts. We already can’t afford all the stuff this country has promised to “deliver” and you want to promise more, spend more, waste more? Are you insane or do you just not have to pay for any of it? You do realize that half the states in this country, not to mention the Federal Government itself are hopelessly over-levered because of all these promises they can’t afford to pay for. This city isn’t all that far behind either. Spend the money wisely or not at all. If the city wants to get involved in mass transit, it shouldn’t be catering to a small number of people on a very specific route, it should be catering to the thousands of folks who spent 5 days a week earning a living so they can pay their massively high tax bills. By the way, if it was my mom or dad, I’d do their… Read more »
Yes.We.Can.
Member
Yes.We.Can.
OK, I will ignore the smugly self- righteous aspect of your response– not everyone CAN live near their parents, or house them, and most elderly do not want to be dependents of their children; they want to live on their own, whether or not they are physically or financially equipped to do so. I am sure you have an answer for that, and a way to reduce the complexity of many types of situations and relationships down to a pat solution- yours. (Of course, why didn’t I think of that! I can stuff old mom in my basement crawlspace! Since it’s dark down there, she won’t notice she’s not in New York). Maybe it’s better to exterminate them? In response to matt_72 who said: WTF do you call social security, medicare and the fact that we have housing projects for the elderly? We spend more money on taking care of the elderly in this country than we can afford to, and if you do the math we spend far more on them than they every in their lives paid in payroll taxes (go ask any economist if you don’t believe it) so it isn’t like we are short changing them. If they need to get to the store, they can arrange to carpool together, but I am flat out tired of these endless handouts. We already can’t afford all the stuff this country has promised to “deliver” and you want to promise more, spend more, waste more? Are you insane… Read more »
patssoxrevscelts
Member
patssoxrevscelts

Isn’t that Obamacare? To rid of the elderly by denying treatment? Yes.You.Can.

In response to Yes.We.Can. who said:
OK, I will ignore the smugly self- righteous aspect of your response– not everyone CAN live near their parents, or house them, and most elderly do not want to be dependents of their children; they want to live on their own, whether or not they are physically or financially equipped to do so. I am sure you have an answer for that, and a way to reduce the complexity of many types of situations and relationships down to a pat solution- yours. (Of course, why didn’t I think of that! I can stuff old mom in my basement crawlspace! Since it’s dark down there, she won’t notice she’s not in New York).

Maybe it’s better to exterminate them?

Yes.We.Can.
Member
Yes.We.Can.

I see you are a student of empty Right-Wing talking points.

I would say your “death panels” you want to preserve are churning our denials for treatment under the label “experimental procedures”. Oh, yes. The death panels are the ghouls that regulate medical care for profit, your health is their commodity, and make seeking treatment confusing and exhausting, if they decide to pay for it, that is.

Well, I doubt you have any experience with this subject. I lived in a country with mandated national health insurance (Japan, which is different than Canadian type,.Most docs and hospitals are privately run but the gov’t sets prices) and it was FANTASTIC… what freedom from the HELL of our system.

I hope Sean Hannity can spring for that “experimental” procedure you may need to save your life someday.

In response to patssoxrevscelts who said:
Isn’t that Obamacare? To rid of the elderly by denying treatment? Yes.You.Can.

Hosea220
Member
Hosea220

Ahhh facism…

“…privately run but the gov’t sets prices…”

In response to Yes.We.Can. who said:
I see you are a student of empty Right-Wing talking points.

I would say your “death panels” you want to preserve are churning our denials for treatment under the label “experimental procedures”. Oh, yes. The death panels are the ghouls that regulate medical care for profit, your health is their commodity, and make seeking treatment confusing and exhausting, if they decide to pay for it, that is.

Well, I doubt you have any experience with this subject. I lived in a country with mandated national health insurance (Japan, which is different than Canadian type,.Most docs and hospitals are privately run but the gov’t sets prices) and it was FANTASTIC… what freedom from the HELL of our system.

I hope Sean Hannity can spring for that “experimental” procedure you may need to save your life someday.

Yes.We.Can.
Member
Yes.We.Can.

Hosea220, if you are going to use big words, (1)know what they mean, (2) know how to spell them and (3) use them properly, so you don’t sound even dimmer than your hero, Sean Hannity.

In response to Hosea220 who said:
Ahhh facism…

“…privately run but the gov’t sets prices…”

Red Haven
Member
Red Haven

You’re right escaped68. This isn’t about a senior shuttle for matt_72. This is about hate. He lives in an ivory tower where he looks down on the rest of Hoboken and sneers. If you tell him you are born and raised in Hoboken, he immediately despises you.

He is part of the new cult of “Reformers” who believe the only righteous path is through Dawn Zimmer and everyone who lived here before him is a crook, or as he calls them, a “tax taker.”

To matt_72 senior citizens in Hoboken are nothing more than “tax takers” stealing money from him every time they are offered a ride on this shuttle (or cash their social security check). He is a very, very angry man.

Some of us celebrate diversity in this town. Others just hate the fact that they live here only because they can’t afford to live in NYC. They are the matt_72’s who share their anger here with all of us.

escaped68
Member

This service might be new to hob. but towns all over NJ have this type of service for seniors.So what is the big deal?

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