Pedestrian Struck – Jackson & Observer

8/14/2009:

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Reported moments ago on the Hoboken411 Live Police and Fire Action Channel – A pedestrian was struck by a vehicle at the intersections of Jackson and Newark Streets.

For most of us that have cars, know that his intersection is quite busy and hectic… cars coming and going from Hoboken, in a hurry to make that left turn up Jackson.. like a game of chicken quite often, actually.

From the sound of it, the injury didn’t appear to be life-threatening as the pedestrian spoke and indicated “he was pain” and requested medical treatment.

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11 Comments on "Pedestrian Struck – Jackson & Observer"

hobposer
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hobposer

I think the issue is that in Hoboken, as soon as one side goes red, immediately the other side goes green. In any other town or city in the world there is at least a 3 second pause before lights switch. NYC has 4 secs, JC has i think 5 secs and in Hoboken we have 0 secs between changing of the colors. Anyone who lives anywhere else will auto think the same, i would and this is probably why the guy got hit. He saw red and crossed and missed the oncoming car. This will all change when someone dies and the news vans come back to town hall for another filming session on why are the traffic lights so hair triggered and this could have been prevented? IMHO

bmacqueens
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I think I saw in a movie that Los Angeles has the same hair-trigger red-green switch. Yeah — remember Eddie Murphie? I can’t remember the name of the movie but he shakes the cops who are tailing him (he’s a double-agent working for them with Nick Nolte) by waiting until his light goes red and then flooring the gas pedal. The cops get cut-off by cross-flowing traffic.

I’ll let you know. I’ll be in Santa Monica by lunchtime (their time) tomorrow.

In response to midtownauthentic who said:
I think the issue is that in Hoboken, as soon as one side goes red, immediately the other side goes green. In any other town or city in the world there is at least a 3 second pause before lights switch. NYC has 4 secs, JC has i think 5 secs and in Hoboken we have 0 secs between changing of the colors. Anyone who lives anywhere else will auto think the same, i would and this is probably why the guy got hit. He saw red and crossed and missed the oncoming car. This will all change when someone dies and the news vans come back to town hall for another filming session on why are the traffic lights so hair triggered and this could have been prevented? IMHO

hobposer
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hobposer

bring me a snow globe please? i’ll repay you

In response to bmacqueens who said:
I think I saw in a movie that Los Angeles has the same hair-trigger red-green switch. Yeah — remember Eddie Murphie? I can’t remember the name of the movie but he shakes the cops who are tailing him (he’s a double-agent working for them with Nick Nolte) by waiting until his light goes red and then flooring the gas pedal. The cops get cut-off by cross-flowing traffic.

I’ll let you know. I’ll be in Santa Monica by lunchtime (their time) tomorrow.

HOB424
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HOB424

Being both a pedestrian and a driver. As a driver, people just walk across, even when the cars don’t have stop signs, they don’t even look, you should always look and make eye contact with driver. People cross diagnally, in the middle, aimlessly wander around, meanwhile as drivers – we have to check out cars at intersections, random pedestrians from every angle, and at alot ot corners, when a big SUV parks, you can’t see oncoming traffic that well. On Washington I see pedistrians, randomly cross Washington, when the traffic light says red for pedestrians, you should stop, you can’t expect cars to stop when they have a green light, if they do this suddently, accidents will happen.

I’ve rambled on enough now,

bmacqueens
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JC – which people? The car drivers? Or the pedestrians who think that right of way means that they’re surrounded by a science fiction, force-field bubble that will protect them in case the car doesn’t stop. For the car to stop, the following things must happen: 1. driver sees pedestrian, 2. driver wants to stop, 3. driver puts foot on brake and presses, 4. brake system is working properly, and 5. car is far enough away to allow the mechanical function of the brake pad to bring the car to an adequate halt. Disregard all the arguments about cell phones and texting and all that nonsense. Assume just a nice, normal driver. Forget even crazy drivers. Even STILL, items 1, 3, 4 and 5 are subject to failure. Every time a pedestrian walks in front of a moving car, they are betting their life on the fact that 1, 3, 4 and 5 are going to work as desired. They’re also betting their life on 2 — that driver wants to stop. Considering how thoroughly selfish and ignorant is the population of the US East Coast, number 2 is a very risky proposition. Even worse here than elsewhere. Don’t gimme the argument about “pedestrians have the right of way.” Being “right” is meaningless when you’ve been hit by 4,000 pounds of moving steel. There’s not a person alive who would rather be “right” instead of “safe,” not after getting hit by a car. So — protect yourselves, pedestrians. Don’t be… Read more »
jc5201
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jc5201

Dam! What’s wrong with people?

bmacqueens
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They have a decoy program down at the Shore to bust aggressive drivers.

I’d like to see something similar aimed at pedestrians — certain corners should belong to cars, like the one in front of Hobson’s Choice, near the taxi cab stand at the PATH station. Is it so difficult to cross at the traffic light in front of the PATH? Do folks really need to plow ahead and prevent the cars from making the turn into the PATH area so that they can get OUT of the PATH area?

In response to jc5201 who said:
Dam! What’s wrong with people?

bmacqueens
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Oh, JC — I just reviewed my post. I didn’t mean to imply that YOU are selfish or stupid. My comments were directed at flawed, original sinn’d humanity in its entirety.

Regards,
B.

In response to jc5201 who said:
Dam! What’s wrong with people?

jc5201
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jc5201

No worries BMac. I was commenting on the guy who hit somebody on purpose.

A lot of pedestrians don’t understand that they too have stop/walk signals that don’t always coincide directly with a cars green/red light.

I don’t think the intersection at Jackson & Observer has a cross walk. I have no reason to walk up there even though it’s a few blocks away, but I don’t think there’s any crosswalk to get on the other side of Observer even close. Dangerous place to try to cross. Maybe they need a no ped x’ing sign (has to be the goofiest sign ever created).

Either way,don’t come off the curb in the forgotten 4th!

In response to bmacqueens who said:
Oh, JC — I just reviewed my post. I didn’t mean to imply that YOU are selfish or stupid. My comments were directed at flawed, original sinn’d humanity in its entirety.

Regards,
B.

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