Helicopter & Plane collide; crash in Hudson

8/14/2009 Update:

In case you haven’t seen the video of the collision…

8/9/2009 Update:

About the victims…

NBC New York has a sad article about the victims who perished.

Helicopter wreckage pulled from Hudson

Below are some photos of both the helicopter wreckage getting extracted from the river – as well as being hoisted onto the pier at Maxwell Place (12th & Sinatra). Additional shots of what the general scene looks like (onlookers, emergency vehicles, boats, etc.)


(Thanks to Ray for the first picture of the helicopter getting pulled…)

SEE ALL OF YESTERDAY’S UPDATES AFTER THE JUMP…

(Helicopter, Plane Collision – continued…)

8/8/2009 Updates

8:00pm:

NTSB Press Conference

NTSB press conference started late, and ended at 8:47pm. An NTSB spokeswoman recapped the day’s tragic events, and said that they’ve recovered three bodies (unsure of from what aircraft), and have located the wreckage of the helicopter. They haven’t positively located the plane, but have promising data as to it’s whereabouts. Until they analyze the air traffic control data, no positive information could be reported about the altitude of the collision.

Additionally, the NTSB said that the water conditions were difficult, with visibility of two to three feet. The recovery mission will resume again Sunday morning at 7AM.

5:00pm:

soupsoup.tumber.com has this screen capture photo of the mid-air collision caught on film!
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3:30pm:

Fox news has picture of “splash”

A Hoboken411 reader sent me this screen capture that Fox News is airing – a picture of the “splash” after one of the aircraft landed in the Hudson:
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2:44pm:

Press conferences – a “recovery mission”

VIDEO STREAM NOW OFF THE AIR…
NYC Mayor Bloomberg had a press conference, talking about the “tragic incident.” He said it appeared the plane hit the helicopter, severed it’s wing, etc. There was discussion about how aircraft communicate and the allowed air space around New York. He said at that altitude, there are certain frequencies that pilots communicate and that all pilots are “skilled.” He believed that no one survived the accident, and the mission has turned from a rescue to a recovery mission.

1:29pm:

Photos of the scene

Here is a gallery of the scene from Hoboken411 readers Bob, Will, Sean and my very own brother:

1:11pm:

Helicopter was from Liberty Tours

Last year, we reported that the Liberty Tours Helicopter sightseeing company was supposed to scale back it’s operations… NBC news reports: “The helicopter was from Liberty Tours. Five passengers and a pilot were on board. The small plane — a fixed wing single-engine aircraft — originally left from Pennsylvania. It stopped at Teterboro Airport in New Jersey to pick up one more person and then departed, police sources said.”

12:58pm:

One confirmed dead

NY1 is confirming one passenger dead. Other unconfirmed reports indicate that the plane may have been one of those advertising banner planes… A tire was spotted on the Sinatra Drive near the skate park..
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12:45pm:

Up to nine people total on board

Initial reports are indicating that the plane had just taken off from Teterboro Airport, and was carrying up to three people – and the helicopter as many as six. Their grim fate remains unknown…

12:40pm:

Black Box spotted near Pier A

NYPD said that they received a call saying a “black box” was spotted near or under Pier A Park….

12:34pm:

Debris being collected; NTSB en route

Police are finding more aircraft parts throughout the waterfront area in Hoboken. They’re being advised to secure the parts. The National Transportation Safety Board is on the way. Other entities involved are the Hudson County Sheriffs department, Hoboken OEM, and more…
12:20pm:

Witnesses say helicopter and plane collide

One commenter here on Hoboken411 said it appeared to be a helicopter and plane that collided… Police are scouring the town now for evidence (14th Street) – amazing no reports of street injuries. Apparently heavy pedestrian traffic is now headed towards the river from all angles.

12:15pm:

Plane debris all over Hoboken

Officials are reporting over the air that plane wreckage is being spotted all over town, including 14th Street and the Campus of Stevens Institute.

12:10pm:

Possible Collision?

The eyewitness, who is in Pier A Park said it appeared to be some kind of twin-engine plane, white with red stripes. He said it sounded like maybe one of the engines exploded, and literally one of the wings may have come off. It was flying fast south down the river.. Police over the radio suspect it may have been a collision.

This took place between Sinatra Park and Pier A Park.

Stevens is reporting that a piece of the wings is on top of one of their buildings.

NYPD Police helicopters responded and two divers jumped out into the river…

More to come…

12:05 PM:

Single engine plane breaks apart in mid-air

Crashes in Hudson!

More to follow…

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89 Comments on "Helicopter & Plane collide; crash in Hudson"


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mooshu
6 years 13 days ago

Sigh, yeah. I watched this vid yesterday evening. It is really an unfortunate collision. But having been on one of those Liberty Tours helicopters, once, I believe (and see) that that plane was flying too low.

Honcho was right, although I’m not yet sure of why it was flying too low in the first place. Only time will tell…

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strand tramp
6 years 13 days ago

long line?

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fupa
6 years 13 days ago

eventho the expert in that video said it was avoidable on both ends, it really looks like it was the planes fault.

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whineanddineinhob
6 years 13 days ago

….and do you think the Titanic ran into the iceberg or vice versa. Just amazing.

In response to fupa who said:
eventho the expert in that video said it was avoidable on both ends, it really looks like it was the planes fault.

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fupa
6 years 13 days ago

duh it was totally the ice’s fault. hahahah jerk

In response to whineanddineinhob who said:
….and do you think the Titanic ran into the iceberg or vice versa. Just amazing.

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strand tramp
6 years 13 days ago

fupa you hottie, where have you been?

In response to fupa who said:
duh it was totally the ice’s fault. hahahah jerk

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fupa
6 years 13 days ago

in the bathroom

In response to strand tramp who said:
fupa you hottie, where have you been?

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6 years 16 days ago

spoke w nypd harbor unit guy yesterday and here’s what he told me. plus, was out on the water the last two days and here’s what i saw..

Crime scene was jurisdiction of NYPD. It’s a crime scene when people don’t know what happened, and their jurisdiction actually extends to the high water line of the shore in NJ due to an act of the (colonial?) legislature from WAY back. FDNY took charge of the rescue, becuase they were first on the scene, but becuase they quickly realized there was no one to rescue, it is declared a crime scene and NYPD takes over.

12th St pier became the extraction point because Hoboken OEM offered it up. NYC agencies couldnt decide WHICH pier to use etc etc due to the many agencies involved there, so NYPD took Hob up on their offer. Pier 40 at Houston St became the place to extract the bodies (and the head, and the arm, etc) since the NYC medical examiner is involved, and 12th St, Hoboken became the place to take out the material and debris. Then when the cage of the Helicopter got pulled with two of the deceased embedded in it that ended up at 12th St, so now the Hob or NJ Med Ex is involved with those two, while the NYC ME is handling the others.

Most of the survey, soundings, side scan radar, and debris removal has been done by the US Army Corps of Engineers. The vessels HAYWARD, MORITZ, and HUDSON have all been involved. As of 6pm tonight I was stuck in “traffic” passing pier 40 while USCG had a “slow bell” zone between Castle Point and the Holland Tunnel vents. Looked like the HAYWARD was dropping off a chunk of the plane (or maybe the helicopter? I saw red stripes and big numbers) off at Pier 40.

As for the 12th st pier, it was good that the outer 1/4 of the pier had timber pilings installed along the south side to help vessels “fend off” and not get damaged by the concrete deck of the pier. But as of tonight any fendering along the tip of the pier was completely demolished by the wear and tear. Much like Pier A – they build these things to be viewing platforms and never remember that a boat might actually have to come alongside some day. The JC Fire department and the USCG are tied up to the 50 year old pier just to the north tonight because that was actually built for boats. Pier C is a joke that way, there’s no where to land a boat unless a boat wants to arrive into a swarm of fishermen!

But hey, that’s some sliding board. A real ass-burner, as many Hob teens will soon find out!

Condolences to the families of the deceased. The whole episode reminds us that tragedies are much more frequent in this world than miracles.

Member
6 years 15 days ago

Thanks for the summary. Good explanation.

In response to elvisroberts who said:
spoke w nypd harbor unit guy yesterday and here’s what he told me. plus, was out on the water the last two days and here’s what i saw..

Crime scene was jurisdiction of NYPD. It’s a crime scene when people don’t know what happened, and their jurisdiction actually extends to the high water line of the shore in NJ due to an act of the (colonial?) legislature from WAY back. FDNY took charge of the rescue, becuase they were first on the scene, but becuase they quickly realized there was no one to rescue, it is declared a crime scene and NYPD takes over.

12th St pier became the extraction point because Hoboken OEM offered it up. NYC agencies couldnt decide WHICH pier to use etc etc due to the many agencies involved there, so NYPD took Hob up on their offer. Pier 40 at Houston St became the place to extract the bodies (and the head, and the arm, etc) since the NYC medical examiner is involved, and 12th St, Hoboken became the place to take out the material and debris. Then when the cage of the Helicopter got pulled with two of the deceased embedded in it that ended up at 12th St, so now the Hob or NJ Med Ex is involved with those two, while the NYC ME is handling the others.

Most of the survey, soundings, side scan radar, and debris removal has been done by the US Army Corps of Engineers. The vessels HAYWARD, MORITZ, and HUDSON have all been involved. As of 6pm tonight I was stuck in “traffic” passing pier 40 while USCG had a “slow bell” zone between Castle Point and the Holland Tunnel vents. Looked like the HAYWARD was dropping off a chunk of the plane (or maybe the helicopter? I saw red stripes and big numbers) off at Pier 40.

As for the 12th st pier, it was good that the outer 1/4 of the pier had timber pilings installed along the south side to help vessels “fend off” and not get damaged by the concrete deck of the pier. But as of tonight any fendering along the tip of the pier was completely demolished by the wear and tear. Much like Pier A – they build these things to be viewing platforms and never remember that a boat might actually have to come alongside some day. The JC Fire department and the USCG are tied up to the 50 year old pier just to the north tonight because that was actually built for boats. Pier C is a joke that way, there’s no where to land a boat unless a boat wants to arrive into a swarm of fishermen!

But hey, that’s some sliding board. A real ass-burner, as many Hob teens will soon find out!

Condolences to the families of the deceased. The whole episode reminds us that tragedies are much more frequent in this world than miracles.

Member
6 years 16 days ago

Thank you for the update and info.

I would suggest this as a miracle —

Just a second or two of flight time in the wrong direction and the wreckage could have come down on the Sunday sunbathers and fishermen on Pier A. The body count on the ground could have been “many” instead of “zero.” We got lucky, in a sense.

Or, this could have happened a little higher in the sky and come crashing down somewhere right inside Hoboken itself.

Sad for the families, but lucky for the rest of us.

In response to elvisroberts who said:
spoke w nypd harbor unit guy yesterday and here’s what he told me. plus, was out on the water the last two days and here’s what i saw..

Crime scene was jurisdiction of NYPD. It’s a crime scene when people don’t know what happened, and their jurisdiction actually extends to the high water line of the shore in NJ due to an act of the (colonial?) legislature from WAY back. FDNY took charge of the rescue, becuase they were first on the scene, but becuase they quickly realized there was no one to rescue, it is declared a crime scene and NYPD takes over.

12th St pier became the extraction point because Hoboken OEM offered it up. NYC agencies couldnt decide WHICH pier to use etc etc due to the many agencies involved there, so NYPD took Hob up on their offer. Pier 40 at Houston St became the place to extract the bodies (and the head, and the arm, etc) since the NYC medical examiner is involved, and 12th St, Hoboken became the place to take out the material and debris. Then when the cage of the Helicopter got pulled with two of the deceased embedded in it that ended up at 12th St, so now the Hob or NJ Med Ex is involved with those two, while the NYC ME is handling the others.

Most of the survey, soundings, side scan radar, and debris removal has been done by the US Army Corps of Engineers. The vessels HAYWARD, MORITZ, and HUDSON have all been involved. As of 6pm tonight I was stuck in “traffic” passing pier 40 while USCG had a “slow bell” zone between Castle Point and the Holland Tunnel vents. Looked like the HAYWARD was dropping off a chunk of the plane (or maybe the helicopter? I saw red stripes and big numbers) off at Pier 40.

As for the 12th st pier, it was good that the outer 1/4 of the pier had timber pilings installed along the south side to help vessels “fend off” and not get damaged by the concrete deck of the pier. But as of tonight any fendering along the tip of the pier was completely demolished by the wear and tear. Much like Pier A – they build these things to be viewing platforms and never remember that a boat might actually have to come alongside some day. The JC Fire department and the USCG are tied up to the 50 year old pier just to the north tonight because that was actually built for boats. Pier C is a joke that way, there’s no where to land a boat unless a boat wants to arrive into a swarm of fishermen!

But hey, that’s some sliding board. A real ass-burner, as many Hob teens will soon find out!

Condolences to the families of the deceased. The whole episode reminds us that tragedies are much more frequent in this world than miracles.

Member
6 years 18 days ago

It looks like that new concrete pier came in handing for the recovery equipment