All you have to do is look at the history of Hudson county, and Bergen county all you have to do is look at the last election and see how many republicans voted democrat. But in the end you are right the final word is apathy.

what are the stats that you’re referring to? i’m not understanding this at all. who is throwing out the corrupt republicans? and who is not being thrown out that is a corrupt democrat? i just don’t agree at all. i think both sides are allowing it to happen, in large part because of voter apathy. they get away with it because people aren’t speaking out. i don’t think either party is handling it better than the other. they both suck with this regard.

I never said they were more corrupt, I said republicans are more willing to vote their guys out and vote for the other party. You can not get around stats to that regard. I say vote for the challenger in every race.

there are 52 blue dog dems in congress because much of our country is more nested towards the center of the political spectrum and doesn’t want the extreme liberals or extreme conservatives as their voices. there are plenty of people in the democrat party that want to throw the bums out too. it’s pervasive in politics, and has a blind eye to the party. to think that any party is handling it better, in my opinion, i just don’t think that is so. Sure – NJ is a very corrupt political state. There’s lots of outside influences. It also happens to be an old school, blue collar, democrat state. But to use these facts as an inference that it’s the dems that are more corrupt is just not intelligent to me at all. That would be assuming that if republicans were more prevalent here, with the same bribes coming their way – that they would turn those bribes away. They are people – unethical people exist in both parties, in many companies, in all types of positions at companies and in society.

It’s up to the voters to speak up and demand that he be removed.

Yes all that is true, But republicans more often throw their bums out than democrats and are more willing to vote for the other party. This is why there are 52 Blue dog democrats in congress now.

Of course the GOP will take advantage, that doesn’t mean all members of the GOP are innocent either. Maybe if every rinky dink town didn’t have their own BOE, mayor & city council there might be a whole lot less corruption all around. It is a little harder to sneak this junk past folks when you have a smaller more efficient government (that doesn’t employ half the frigging town) and a larger pool of voters scrutinizing how the local government spends their money.

I actually think the corruption is so pervasive in Jersey that you almost have to wonder if any long time career politician in NJ (Republican & Democrat alike) is immune to its influence. I almost want to vote almost exclusively for folks who have little experience b/c they might be the least corrupt b/c politics isn’t their livelihood.

sure – they stand for it during their campaigns, and then they get in office and do all the same pork BS and BS spending as any other politician, they just spend it in different ways. It’s all the same, and the bottom line is, without voters holding politicians accountable for their actions, we’ll always have wasteful spending and corruption – on both sides. to pretend one side does it any more than the other is just ignorant.

If he were a Republican, the party would have asked him to leave by now. Correct me if I am wrong, but Nixon resigned specifically b/c the Republicans in Congress told Nixon that more than enough of them would go along w/ impeachment (hardly the only example I can cite – but since he was a President, figured that would be good enough) so he was a dead duck anyway. And bonus points if you can figure out which prominent Republican wrote Nixon a memo asking him to resign…..I bet you won’t like the answer.

But I am curious why you think all Republicans are crooks? Most Republicans stand for cutting spending and cutting taxes so that the citizens can keep more of their own money in their own pockets. So if that is the case, doesn’t that make Democrats the crooks? They are upping the spending and taxes to well above the level required to maintain services. They are the ones taking money for no show jobs, useless promotions, overly generous benefits & pensions, tax giveaways to connected families who make six figures, a payroll that is easily 20% larger than needed, etc…. So doesn’t that make the folks that support these policies in Jersey the crooks? And let me guess, you are one of them. So doesn’t that make you a crook of sorts? Sure it is legal to take someone’s money for useless BS via taxation, but that sure as heck doesn’t make it ethical. It is just legalized theft. The government is real good at legalizing theft when it suits some politician’s purposes. Too bad Petey didn’t stick to stealing and wasting taxpayer dollars the legal way like his mentor Quimby did. If he had done that, we would have just hated him. But by resorting to bribery we not only get to hate him, we get to toss him in a deep dark hole for a few years, take away his license to practice law & make him resort to pumping gas to make a living when he gets out of the big house