Tom Vincent

I wanted to ask Peter C. about his infrastructure question response. Something about the need to fix the viaduct (on which I agree, but) he went on to say we’ll need to work with NJ Transit to do it. I wanted to ask how many extra stories we can expect the 75 story building by the train station to grow in exchange for their “anticipated” help with the viaduct. Unfortunately, however, there was only time for 2 audience questions because the second questioner took 10 minutes to ask her question and then got into a debate with Peter C. when he answered which took 5 more minutes, after which there was no time for any one else to ask any questions.

professor pinetop wrote:

the “primary residence” jargon is for taxes, not voting.

You are incorrect. Google it, there’s a ton of caselaw out there, including Tedisco v. Murphy (NY).

Perhaps most importantly: http://www.afscmenj.org/documents/VOTERBILLOFRIGHTS.pdf

That’s NJ’s voting rules – You’ll note on page 4 where it states: “College Students have the right to register at the address considered the primary residence. It can be a school or a home address.”

Thanks for playing.

as previously posted they then cannot vote anywhere else without re-registering somewhere else.

the “primary residence” jargon is for taxes, not voting.

even homeless people can register to vote in a community.

Springtime wrote:

KS–that was all a long way of saying that you are right.

ROFL. . .I followed. I remember learning about residency in Civ Pro and thinking “This is total bullsh–.” LOL

homeworld wrote:

strand tramp wrote:

well if they declare hoboken as their primary residence and use it as their home address on fed/state taxes and auto insurance then i guess they should vote here. though it strikes me as strange since so many of the posters here still vote at mom & dads house and they got out of school years ago.

Approximately 1,000 Stevens students are registered to vote in Hoboken. Over 500 Stevens students live in various off-campus Stevens-leased housing such as the Curling Club and The Shipyard to name a few. That makes those students just as much a resident as any other renter in the building.

My question is whether they are all registered at 1 Castle Point Terrace (where the Stevens post office is located), or the address of their respective housing. That would make a big difference.

But thankfully it won’t matter for the Mayor’s race or at large seats.

Katie_Scarlett wrote:

gdstep wrote:

So if you live in Hoboken vote here. It’s not only your civic duty, its the law!

I could be wrong, it’s been about 8 years since I sat in the classroom, but from what I remember, permanent residency is in the eye of the beholder. I can live in Hoboken for 10 years, but if I intend to move back to Pennsylvania and still have an address there, I can opt for that to be my permanent address. I would assume that carries over to voting, but not to insurance etc, as you have to insure where you live. But I’m not 100% positive that a-this is the current law & b- that it carries over to voting. Maybe a current law student can enlighten us.

Not sure that is really correct. Unlike us, students are able to choose where they want to claim residency because they are actually in a situation where they can claim they are here temporarily or permanently. Same goes for folks in the military (as they are often transferred from place to place every few years). But if you have lived here for 10 years (post college), doubtful you can claim residency in PA, especially not if your “residence” is your parents place or some vacation home that you intend to move into at some unspecified time in the future. Permanency isn’t a requirement to establish residency, just moving to a city/state “for an appreciable period of time” is all that is required. And I would think that moving away from PA for that appreciable period of time would by the same token be enough to prove you had established residency elsewhere.

strand tramp wrote:

well if they declare hoboken as their primary residence and use it as their home address on fed/state taxes and auto insurance then i guess they should vote here. though it strikes me as strange since so many of the posters here still vote at mom & dads house and they got out of school years ago.

Approximately 1,000 Stevens students are registered to vote in Hoboken. Over 500 Stevens students live in various off-campus Stevens-leased housing such as the Curling Club and The Shipyard to name a few. That makes those students just as much a resident as any other renter in the building.

My question is whether they are all registered at 1 Castle Point Terrace (where the Stevens post office is located), or the address of their respective housing. That would make a big difference.