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	<title>Comments on: Hoboken: City for Sale (Part III)</title>
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		<title>By: jc5201</title>
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		<dc:creator>jc5201</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read an article that pertains to this very subject on a national level. The conservative majority on the Supreme Court might overturn a law banning corporate camapign contributions, and it offers an interesting historical persepctive. Insurance co&#039;s have been involved in campaign controversey for 100 years.

Here&#039;s the link

 http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/11/opinion/11tue4.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read an article that pertains to this very subject on a national level. The conservative majority on the Supreme Court might overturn a law banning corporate camapign contributions, and it offers an interesting historical persepctive. Insurance co&#8217;s have been involved in campaign controversey for 100 years.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/11/opinion/11tue4.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/11/opinion/11tue4.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion' target="_blank">nytimes.com/2009/08/11/opinion/11tue4.html?_r=1&amp;ref=opinion</a></p>
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		<title>By: jc5201</title>
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		<dc:creator>jc5201</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. The problem with very constrictive pay-to-play laws is that it costs money to run a campaign and the people who really benefit is the ultra rich candidate like Mason, Corzine or Bloomberg.

It definitely rids us of bad contracts, but it also rids us of good people who cannot afford the cost a campaign on their own.

We should make sure we&#039;re pushing strict pay-to-play laws, to avoid the situations mentioned above, but we also need to focus on fair elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. The problem with very constrictive pay-to-play laws is that it costs money to run a campaign and the people who really benefit is the ultra rich candidate like Mason, Corzine or Bloomberg.</p>
<p>It definitely rids us of bad contracts, but it also rids us of good people who cannot afford the cost a campaign on their own.</p>
<p>We should make sure we&#8217;re pushing strict pay-to-play laws, to avoid the situations mentioned above, but we also need to focus on fair elections.</p>
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		<title>By: camel2</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/17024/comment-page-1#comment-167566</link>
		<dc:creator>camel2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is why it pays for politicians to read hoboken411. He would have educated himself about what to look out for!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is why it pays for politicians to read hoboken411. He would have educated himself about what to look out for!</p>
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		<title>By: Biffy B For Mayor</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/17024/comment-page-1#comment-167562</link>
		<dc:creator>Biffy B For Mayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact - its not only the politicians that are for sale, its the entire public that is for sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact &#8211; its not only the politicians that are for sale, its the entire public that is for sale.</p>
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		<title>By: Biffy B For Mayor</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/17024/comment-page-1#comment-167561</link>
		<dc:creator>Biffy B For Mayor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really sad that all this money is needed to run for public office.  Instead of citizens coming out and tracking down the candidates, campaigns need to spend dollars upon dollars to reach apathetic americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really sad that all this money is needed to run for public office.  Instead of citizens coming out and tracking down the candidates, campaigns need to spend dollars upon dollars to reach apathetic americans.</p>
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		<title>By: estevens</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 04:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doing the I-told-you-so bump (and grind).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doing the I-told-you-so bump (and grind).</p>
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		<title>By: estevens</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/17024/comment-page-1#comment-142513</link>
		<dc:creator>estevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beejay - no they can&#039;t, though they often use funds for &quot;strategy sessions&quot; at Frankie &amp; Johnnie&#039;s, donations to local charities and clubs (rather than using their own bucks), and as Anthony Russo did, hiring their wife to be &quot;campaign manager&quot; at $1000 a week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beejay &#8211; no they can&#8217;t, though they often use funds for &#8220;strategy sessions&#8221; at Frankie &amp; Johnnie&#8217;s, donations to local charities and clubs (rather than using their own bucks), and as Anthony Russo did, hiring their wife to be &#8220;campaign manager&#8221; at $1000 a week.</p>
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		<title>By: Beejay</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/17024/comment-page-1#comment-142494</link>
		<dc:creator>Beejay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;142423&quot;]I would guess that the difference between the cases presented here is that those arrested got the money for themselves, but the other person gets contributions for a political campaign. In one case, one is a bribe because the person pockets the money, in the other case, it is kind of unethical, but the system seems unethical to begin with.[/quote]

Someone correct me if I am wrong but, I don&#039;t think politicians necessarily have to spend their political contributions.  They can take the money with them if they decide to not run again.  If you can keep the money it is basically the same as handing over an envelope filled with 100s.</description>
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<p><u><b>aap </b>wrote:</u></p>
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I would guess that the difference between the cases presented here is that those arrested got the money for themselves, but the other person gets contributions for a political campaign. In one case, one is a bribe because the person pockets the money, in the other case, it is kind of unethical, but the system seems unethical to begin with.</p>
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<p>Someone correct me if I am wrong but, I don&#8217;t think politicians necessarily have to spend their political contributions.  They can take the money with them if they decide to not run again.  If you can keep the money it is basically the same as handing over an envelope filled with 100s.</p>
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		<title>By: kellyjoy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;142385&quot;]ROFL . . .nice job Bri.[/quote]

You mean nice job Ruben.</description>
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ROFL . . .nice job Bri.</p>
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<p>You mean nice job Ruben.</p>
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		<title>By: aap</title>
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		<dc:creator>aap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would guess that the difference between the cases presented here is that those arrested got the money for themselves, but the other person gets contributions for a political campaign. In one case, one is a bribe because the person pockets the money, in the other case, it is kind of unethical, but the system seems unethical to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would guess that the difference between the cases presented here is that those arrested got the money for themselves, but the other person gets contributions for a political campaign. In one case, one is a bribe because the person pockets the money, in the other case, it is kind of unethical, but the system seems unethical to begin with.</p>
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