New traffic pattern at Maxwell Place
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March
3/10/2009:
Not sure how many of you drive near Maxwell Place, but there’s a giant orange sign that “alerts” people that a new traffic pattern is coming on Sinatra Drive Northbound on March 17th.
I could have sworn I had an email about this, but cannot find it. I believe it will be two-way traffic now… but I could be wrong.
There’s your public service announcement for the day.
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March 10th 2009 - 14:55:27 |
Two-way would not make sense from 11th to the part that intersects Sinatra Drive near the Union Dry docks (where there’s currently a no left turn sign) They eliminated the radius that would have allowed any turning movement and shifted the curb line only a few months after they installed that intersection a few years ago.
It would seem to me that the portion south of 11th would remain one-way, and only the portion north of 11th would be 2-way.
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March 11th 2009 - 23:45:26 |
the whole street from 12th to Frank Sinatra is so wide it could easily accommodate two-way traffic for those two blocks. I’m guessing the traffic engineers might LIKE bringing more northbound traffic off of Hudson and onto the Riverfront. but I’m not sure those folks running for the ferry or the parents with dogs and strollers crossing the street will want to get mowed down by the cars that will inevitably fly through here trying to skip all the traffic lights/traffic on Hudson! Speaking of the waterfront, anyone know why they cut out all the on-street parking there? It seemed to work fine for more than a year, then lo and behold no parking signs everywhere? Me thinks the Maxwell Place folks didn’t like “those people” driving down to the river and making noise, playing kickball, and committing other felonious offenses.
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March 12th 2009 - 08:14:55 |
first of all there is NO northbound traffic on Hudson. second there is no way there should be a right permitted off Sinatra prior to the light. as mentioned above it would created a superhighway of cars trying to avoid the light and an impossible situation for the safe use of the waterfront park. finally, the “streets” you are describing are not city streets. they are privately owned driveways. the city doesn’t pave them, the city doesn’t plow them, the city cannot put parking meters there, they don’t paint the stripes, empty the garbage or determine the parking rules. this is private property. much like WFC across the river, the public is permitted access but may be removed and/or charged with trespassing at the will of the property owners. the city doesn’t maintain the grass, the lighting or the various resources on any of the open space there either. again, the public is permitted access but there are no taxpayer “rights” to this property that may be assumed across the street at Elysian park. those that allow their pets to piss/sh!t on that property should keep in mind that the property is monitored by closed circuit cameras with recorders and the property owner is within his right to file charges against those that do not clean up after their animals. if they wanted they could close public access to the driveways altogether. it’s a similiar situation to the closed/fenced park at Garden and Newark that is owned by that property owner, or the campus at Stevens. you can enter, but you can be removed at any time.
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March 12th 2009 - 08:52:25 |
strand tramp wrote:
Hudson Street is a North/South road from 11th to 15th. What are you talking about?
As for the Maxwell Place Park, it was built privately, but was given over to the City as part of the agreement to building Maxwell Place.
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March 12th 2009 - 08:57:48 |
homeworld wrote:
http://www.betterwaterfront.com/news/00932007.shtml
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March 12th 2009 - 09:11:19 |
Good link – it just goes to reinforce how poorly a job the city does in getting developers to deliver on their promises. The city should force developers to post very large cash deposits or performance bonds to insure delivery of promised parks/open space/community centers before they are ever allowed to break ground (and get iron clad contracts – another area the city is lacking in).
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March 12th 2009 - 09:57:24 |
homeworld wrote:
i was referring to the grass area that roberts had a public fight with the building inspector and the fence cutting media event and zimmer had her softball game protest at, not the waterfront walkway. and i apologize on the hudson st comment, i was referring to hudson st south of 11th since that is where people would turn off sinatra to cut over. not enough coffee yet.
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