A look into Marineview Plaza

1/14/2009:

As a follow-up to Hoboken411 reader estevens look into the Church Towers list of who’s who (and where and how much), he’s provided a similar list of public employees making over $80k for Marineview Plaza.

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Marineview Plaza

MVP – multiple property owners

MVP – city and school employees over $80k

“Marine View Plaza I & II are the two 25-story towers at 4th and Hudson, just across from 333 River Street.

  • Studio units rent for $577-636.
  • 1 bedroom units rent for $822-888.
  • 2 bedroom units rent for $1005-1188.

(Income surcharges can add up to $400 to the rent.)

Information was obtained from voter registration lists, online directories, state pension records, online tax records, and Zillow.com, which provided estimated values for most of the properties based on sales in the immediate area.

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143 Comments on "A look into Marineview Plaza"

Tama Murden
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Re 142.: Absolutely. But it’s beyond time for the “shake up.”

Now is the time for no more business as usual here.

I believe most folks want that to not affect those who have not been freeloading. It’s the scam-artists that need to be flushed out. The problem is, it’s so ingrained, many don’t view it as “scam,” but as “entitlement.”

nacholibre
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nacholibre

[quote comment=”129765″]I’m not going to debate whether Ms. Sing is worthy of praise for her work in the classroom. And no, she has not broken any laws by maintaining her residency in MVP despite her above average income.

I’ll also concede that Ms. Sing has a right to moonlight as an actress at an undisclosed rate of pay (as was mentioned before she — surprise! — spoke up in favor of the rich new teacher’s contract at the last Board of Ed meeting).

So, she makes about $90k from her teaching job, more on the side as an NYC actress, and still maintains she has the right to stay in MVP? What about the new teacher making $43k or the new firefighter making even less than that?

Shouldn’t somebody making Ms. Sing money be thinking “Hey, this was a good run, but now that I can well afford it maybe I should move out of the tax subsidized housing and make room for someone who CAN’T afford Hoboken!”

Nope. Here it’s a case of take all you can get and let others figure it out on their own while you look at your panoramic views of NYC from MVP.[/quote]

Truly sickening. The sense of entitlement is well entrenched and will be hard to shake up.

IndieCom
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[quote comment=”128310″][quote comment=”128300″]r.e. 128 Indie, your post is logical. However, if reval wouldn’t shift tax burden from newcomers to long-term owners, why are the long-term owners up in arms to prevent it? Seems to me many people think their taxes would go up. Do you think they are mistaken?[/quote] I think he is mistaken. There are tons of properties that have never been remodeled in town that would have substantial increases in taxes if there were a reval. Just look at all those walk-up rental buildings that have never gone through anything more complex than a cosmetic remodeling. I bet they all would have increased tax bills.[/quote] No Matt, I’m not wrong. There are undoubtedly unrenovated properties that would see an increase….tons(?!!!!?) – ah…you, as a condo owner….hope so….but you really don’t know. And the rental buildings values are lower, that would figure heavily into a reassessment. Ken….long time owners are scared. If you think of a bell curve, owners who bought prior to 1988 and soon thereafter, who never did any property improvements would still be assessed based on recent sales for “simular” properties. They would also be reassessed based on location. The worst dump on Bloomfield street still sits on, supposedly, valuable land. Chances are the biggest increases will hit those owners. How big depends on how many. The biggest fallacy is that many newer owners are SURE they will see substantial reduction in taxes….and some of the loudest “pro reval” voices would be quite shocked were a… Read more »
andynnj
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andynnj
[quote comment=”128111″][quote comment=”128041″][quote comment=”128025″]No one can deny that there are a lot of brownstones that are paying the same yearly taxes as condos half to a third there size, and that this is due to properties not being re-assessed for 20 years.[/quote] So now we switch the subject, eh? Regardless of condo taxes v. single & multi-family taxes (and there is a discussion to be had on that, but I’ll take a guess that not many posters on 411 have taken the time to really understand the assessment process beyond: how dare someone have a better “deal” than me) – the original statement by Fuery was that s/he PERSONALLY KNOWS of a brownstone with taxes of 4K. I replied, ‘wow – unbelievable, which one’ – simple question. I don’t know if there is one or isn’t one. I didn’t make the (inflamatory) statement, but would be concerned to discover such a property tax on a large building. I am not, however, gonna take a comment on 411 as fact w/o proof….and if, after making such a statement, Fuery doesn’t prove it (which can be done), I’ll chalk it up as some idiot on 411 spoutin’ lies and divisive (oh, that word) rhetoric.[/quote] Look up Roberts’ buildings at 200 and 202 Monroe. 8 family house paying the same in taxes as some 1-br condos. I know because he pays very close to what I do.[/quote] Oh, so you noticed the new Quimby Towers buildings? I’m still wondering how much of the… Read more »
Red Haven
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Red Haven

I’m not going to debate whether Ms. Sing is worthy of praise for her work in the classroom. And no, she has not broken any laws by maintaining her residency in MVP despite her above average income.

I’ll also concede that Ms. Sing has a right to moonlight as an actress at an undisclosed rate of pay (as was mentioned before she — surprise! — spoke up in favor of the rich new teacher’s contract at the last Board of Ed meeting).

So, she makes about $90k from her teaching job, more on the side as an NYC actress, and still maintains she has the right to stay in MVP? What about the new teacher making $43k or the new firefighter making even less than that?

Shouldn’t somebody making Ms. Sing money be thinking “Hey, this was a good run, but now that I can well afford it maybe I should move out of the tax subsidized housing and make room for someone who CAN’T afford Hoboken!”

Nope. Here it’s a case of take all you can get and let others figure it out on their own while you look at your panoramic views of NYC from MVP.

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