Church Towers: Multiple Property Owners

2/23/2009 Update:

Ramos on Church Towers

Here’s Councilman At-large Ruben Ramos’ take on Church Towers at the last City Council Meeting:


Ruben Ramos on Church Towers from Hoboken411 on Vimeo.

SEE PREVIOUS UPDATE AFTER THE JUMP…

2/3/2009 Update:

Today we have a couple reader mail updates about Church Towers. The first, from Hoboken411 regular estevens – details the hypocrisy of close knit politics. And a second, from an anonymous reader who thinks the whole “waiting list” is another name for “racket.”

Can someone please send me something nice about CT??

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Michelle Russo – millions in real estate commissions

Estevens says:
“Third Ward Councilman Michael Russo recently declared that four hundred families in Church Towers moderate-income housing are at risk of losing their homes if steps are not taken immediately to preserve their low taxes and rents. The prior investigation of city and school workers who either own property or have substantial salaries (or both) suggests that they are not likely to find themselves thrown out on the streets any time soon. Additional research suggests that there is at least one more resident who should be able to weather any modest increase in rent. Michelle Russo, Michael’s mother, wife of former Hoboken Mayor Anthony Russo, and reigning queen of Church Towers, has done well as a local real estate agent, particularly while her husband was still in office and had control of the local boards.

According to court records, Michele earned $190,000 in commissions for 1999 while employed by Riverside Realty, located in a Washington Street storefront owned by Anthony Russo’s cousin, Theresa Castellano. In 2001 Michele made $400,000. In the five years between 1998 and 2002 she made at least $1.5 million in commissions, $500,000 of which came from exclusive listings at 9th and Madison, PILOT’d condos built by URSA/Tarragon as part of the Northwest Redevelopment agreement created during Russo’s mayoral stint.

Michelle has since worked as a sales agent for Upper Grand Realty, a division of URSA/Tarragon and sales office for their many units built in Hoboken, most of which are in the Northwest Redevelopment zone. A source close to the developers says that she had annual earnings in the low six-figures until two years ago, when her employment with Upper Grand came to an end.

All this while living in a three-bedroom apartment in Church Towers with an estimated rent of $1200…”

Waiting list for whom?

Meanwhile – another Hoboken411 reader sent this brief note yesterday:

“What a bunch of knuckleheads!!

It all starts INSIDE the Management Office.. People on the waiting list for years and then all of a sudden, out of nowhere are 2 fancy furniture moving trucks moving in a new tenant whose bank account just got decreased by a few thousand dollars (I think its called a finders fee!!)

What a racket, just sit back on your rump and collect envelopes stuffed with green. So there you have it. Leave the other wealthy people out of it. Me? I wouldn’t pay a quarter to live in that roach and mice infected complex.”

Read more about the whole debacle below…

1/12/2009 Update:

Now the subject of this Church Towers entry goes beyond “multiple property owners” and now encompasses “City employees” as well.

Hoboken411 reader estevens did a little more investigating to uncover at least 22 Church Towers residents employed by the city in some capacity making over $80,000 per year:

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Many well-paid city workers live at Church Towers

“Attached are Church Towers residents who work for either the City of Hoboken or the Hoboken school district and make over $80K per year (or make less but live with another such employee who does).

Data was pulled from voter registration lists and state pension fund lists. Salaries are from 2007 and are approximate, given the potpourri of longevity payments, allowances, and other benefits which are sometimes included, sometimes not. Numbers do not include medical benefits, which can add nearly $20K in some cases. Salaries of residents who work in the private sector or public sector outside Hoboken were not surveyed.

[With the exception of two, all these individuals have voted recently at these addresses. One of the two is still listed at the CT address by the Whitepages online directory.]

estevens

CITY EMPLOYEES EARNING 80K OR MORE AT CHURCH TOWERS

Previous updates & multiple property owners below…

1/9/2009:

What is “fair?” And for whom?

Now I’m sure this will be a very divisive subject.

Since the PILOTs renewal for Church Towers was recently on (and then off) the City Council agenda this week – much debate has ensued about it, and those that support it.

Hoboken411 reader estevens did some digging:
“Since Church Towers is in the news, I thought I might perform a quick-and-dirty search of CT residents that own property in town or “down the shore.” I’m sure I’ve missed more than a few, what with LLC’s and game-playing with addresses. Property values are estimates from Zillow.com as available.”

(411 note: this is public information)

5 Church Towers

  • Fesken, Anthony & Arlene – 204 Homestead Ave, Point Pleasant Beach – $480K
  • Wickham, Richard & Carol – 226 Bay Terrace, Seaside Heights – $434K
  • Rutkowski, John & Alana Negri – 209 Shuster Ave, Dover – $235K
  • Romano, Anthony & Joseph (Trustees) – 41 Willow Court, Hoboken – $450K
  • Ortega, Manuel – 631 Willow Ave, Hoboken – $400K
  • Lanza, Diane – 210 Eighth St, Hoboken – $592K
  • Lanza, Diane – 256 Clendenny Ave, Jersey City – $170K
  • Mazzone, Frank & Josephine Mazzone – 628 Washington St, Hoboken – ?$$$
  • Gigante, Achille & M & G – 408 24th St, Union City – $361K

10 Church Towers

  • Muraca, Jack & Anna – 73 Carlyle Dr, Berkeley – $392K
  • Cupo, Geo & Antoinette – 480 East End Ave, Brick – $177K
  • Crimmins, Joseph & Kathleen – 621 Bancroft Rd, Brick – $620K
  • Pepe, Maria – 2006 Bookbinder Court, Dover – $204K
  • Luongo, Thomas & Antoinette – 602 Monroe St, Hoboken – $729K
  • Knapp, Mary – 647 Garden St, Hoboken – $145K
  • Russo, Michele & Michael & Anthony P – 1228 Oakwood Rd, Belmar – $463K

15 Church Towers

  • Matthews, Charles & Janice – 463-5 Route 35N. Brick – $270K (assessed value)
  • Manzetti, Richard – 479 Mohawk Dr, Brick – $177K
  • Miranda, Joseph & Gail – 1500 Tamiami Rd, Lacey – $295K
  • Lobue, Daniel III – 110 Paterson Road, Ocean Township – $405K
  • Turner, Thomas & Antonia – 2108 Barnegat Blvd, Point Pleasant – $341K
  • Aligo, Louis & Victoria – 221 Dupont Ave, Seaside Heights – $388K
  • Radigan, Bruce & Marie – 31 Amy Drive, Stafford – $383K
  • Taglieri, Michael & Louise – 43 Joshua Drive, Stafford – $375K
  • Kearns, Kevin and Francis – 77 ½ Ocean Ave, Manasquan – $470K
  • Tarantino, Carmela – 723 Adams St, Hoboken – $600K

I guess this topic can be broken down in two sections:
– Is extending the PILOTs agreement for 10 years acceptable – regardless who’s living there?
– At what point do folks get “cut off” from the privilege of living in affordable housing?

One person I spoke with drew a comparison to a parent providing their kids with allowances. “Once the kids grow up, become successful and can support themselves, should they still get the allowance?”

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736 Comments on "Church Towers: Multiple Property Owners"

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

68 now or later it all evens out..I never saw so many rubber gun wise guys that dodged the bullet. has nothing to do with CT..Whos left?

know it all
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know it all

so im 17 and i can say these comments made me sick to my stomach ! unbelievable how these “yuppies” can really be mean on the other side of the screen . calling us uneducated ? what have you done for this town besides build more condos ? nothing !!! and the people who’ve been born n raised here ; will die here we’re not leaving ! b.c these comments im seeing of wanting us to leave , u yuppies used to be scared of even stepping foot in hoboken because it was “so bad” .. and talking trash about russo ? makes u look uneducated and worthless ! hes done more here then u wish u’d ever would ! i hate what hoboken has become ! used to be a place were everyone knew eachother , now its an over priced boring town ! and see’n u walk down the streets makes it worse .. now the city is scary ! go back where u came from ! do us all a favor and stop thinking highly of your selfs .. money dont give u power , in your case it just brings u hate !

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1
know it all. No argument here.Most who live in CT have been there since 1966..How the tennents made their way and what they achieved is a credit to them..Your preaching to a choir…Why can’t people who earned their way own shore homes or homes elsewhere.Many were left to tennents from their parents.they pay more taxes down the shore than up here in disney land. Not all the tennents are top shelf.Some should never forget where they came from and some dodged the bullet years ago. the issue here is nebees live here pay taxes and leave well enough alone.They put their trust in a promise to lower taxes and not to be jealouis of bnr who lived here for years…The pkg some of these corperate people get on christmas will boggle ones mind. Adding to that notice one reformer who is making money in real estate is not complaining nor do we see protests against hight taxes at city hall..lmaorotf 😛 [quote comment=”210371″]so im 17 and i can say these comments made me sick to my stomach ! unbelievable how these “yuppies” can really be mean on the other side of the screen . calling us uneducated ? what have you done for this town besides build more condos ? nothing !!! and the people who’ve been born n raised here ; will die here we’re not leaving ! b.c these comments im seeing of wanting us to leave , u yuppies used to be scared of even stepping foot… Read more »
escaped68
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Aren’t there a few dead people and convicts on that list?[quote comment=”210375″]know it all. No argument here.Most who live in CT have been there since 1966..How the tennents made their way and what they achieved is a credit to them..Your preaching to a choir…Why can’t people who earned their way own shore homes or homes elsewhere.Many were left to tennents from their parents.they pay more taxes down the shore than up here in disney land. Not all the tennents are top shelf.Some should never forget where they came from and some dodged the bullet years ago. the issue here is nebees live here pay taxes and leave well enough alone.They put their trust in a promise to lower taxes and not to be jealouis of bnr who lived here for years…The pkg some of these corperate people get on christmas will boggle ones mind. Adding to that notice one reformer who is making money in real estate is not complaining nor do we see protests against hight taxes at city hall..lmaorotf [/quote]

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1

68 as Jesus said let the dead bury themselves..the so called convects no clue but do no that a few dodged the bullet years ago..and still look over their shoulders..lets call them paper gangsters? very very luckey..[quote comment=”210377″]Aren’t there a few dead people and convicts on that list?[/quote]

Journey
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Journey

Thanks guys, (oceanbloo 717, Naf 718, and Hobo91 719)

It is nice to be appreciated.

justaview
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justaview

And now for something completely different!
Dave Roberts was overheard saying I’m going to be indicted any minute!
Come on, gimme.
Will you get it through your heads…
…they’re dusting off the hot seat for me!

matt_72
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Whiskey – what you don’t get is those businesses pulled out of Hoboken because they didn’t want to be in Hoboken. They pulled out of NYC, they pulled out of Philly, out of Providence & out of almost every other high cost city in the country. You folks chased them out. They couldn’t make money being in Hoboken so they relocated. If it weren’t for us and the “quaint bistros” we patronize, Hoboken would be a ghost of a town full of unemployed people. And yes, there are 3 ways out of Hoboken, you are free to use them as well. One of these days enough condos will get built that you might end up finally being shown a choice of either exiting town or starting to pay your fair share of the tax burden. Almost happened this time…….and w/ the new projects on the horizon my guess is it will happen soon.

wiskeytango1
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wiskeytango1
matt only saw your post dated june 11th as well as the 17 year old journey whom i have socks older than him or her.Contrare to matt who patronize’s the quaint bistros that grace hoboken..Industry moved out because of cheaper employ down south.Also keep in mind these companys paid the lions share of taxes and maxwell house paid a percentage of the water bill..Of course change is good but don’t flatter yourselves in regard to rescuing Hoboken. Some of you have to see what you look like and how badly you behave when the bistros close and wind up arrested for moronic actions.No one forced companys out of hoboken..There were quint bistros aka bars along river st called the barbery coast..If the spoiled brats got nasty Lord help them. If people can lay down 9.00 for a VO @ water they can afford their home owners tax unless they live 5 together in two rooms..while in transit..Love that quaint bistro crap.They hit you on the head with a mallet and your glad to pay half of what it would be in NYC. The baton is passed on to you guys..God for it..[quote comment=”159498″]Whiskey – what you don’t get is those businesses pulled out of Hoboken because they didn’t want to be in Hoboken. They pulled out of NYC, they pulled out of Philly, out of Providence & out of almost every other high cost city in the country. You folks chased them out. They couldn’t make money being in Hoboken… Read more »
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