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		<title>By: homeworld</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/15584/comment-page-2#comment-124112</link>
		<dc:creator>homeworld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;124101&quot;]&quot;THE BAILOUT,&quot;
a play in 20 words

CURTAIN RISES. TWO MEN, BANKS and CONGRESS, ARE AT CENTER STAGE.

BANKS: We need money.

CONGRESS: Here you go.

(long pause)

CONGRESS: Hey, that money I gave you, what are you doing with it?

BANKS: Fuck you.

LIGHTS DIM, CLOSE CURTAIN[/quote]

You just don&#039;t understand trickle down economics! 

(By the way, I think that trickle that&#039;s landing on us is them peeing off the balcony...)</description>
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<p><u><b>cinghiale </b>wrote:</u></p>
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&#8220;THE BAILOUT,&#8221;<br />
a play in 20 words</p>
<p>CURTAIN RISES. TWO MEN, BANKS and CONGRESS, ARE AT CENTER STAGE.</p>
<p>BANKS: We need money.</p>
<p>CONGRESS: Here you go.</p>
<p>(long pause)</p>
<p>CONGRESS: Hey, that money I gave you, what are you doing with it?</p>
<p>BANKS: Fuck you.</p>
<p>LIGHTS DIM, CLOSE CURTAIN</p>
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<p>You just don&#8217;t understand trickle down economics! </p>
<p>(By the way, I think that trickle that&#8217;s landing on us is them peeing off the balcony&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: cinghiale</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/15584/comment-page-2#comment-124101</link>
		<dc:creator>cinghiale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;THE BAILOUT,&quot; 
a play in 20 words


CURTAIN RISES. TWO MEN, BANKS and CONGRESS, ARE AT CENTER STAGE.

BANKS: We need money. 

CONGRESS: Here you go. 

(long pause)

CONGRESS: Hey, that money I gave you, what are you doing with it?

BANKS: Fuck you.  

LIGHTS DIM, CLOSE CURTAIN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;THE BAILOUT,&#8221;<br />
a play in 20 words</p>
<p>CURTAIN RISES. TWO MEN, BANKS and CONGRESS, ARE AT CENTER STAGE.</p>
<p>BANKS: We need money. </p>
<p>CONGRESS: Here you go. </p>
<p>(long pause)</p>
<p>CONGRESS: Hey, that money I gave you, what are you doing with it?</p>
<p>BANKS: Fuck you.  </p>
<p>LIGHTS DIM, CLOSE CURTAIN</p>
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		<title>By: Easy-E</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/15584/comment-page-2#comment-123977</link>
		<dc:creator>Easy-E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;123959&quot;]Gotta love the unbiased Wahington Post.  Here is Cheney&#039;s exact quote from the ABC interview:

&quot;As I look at the intelligence with respect to Iraq, what they got wrong was that there weren&#039;t any stockpiles.&quot;

&quot;What they found was that Saddam Hussein still had the capability to produce weapons of mass destruction. He had the technology, he had the people, he had the basic feed stock.&quot;

Cheney added that, given Saddam Hussein&#039;s capabilities, reputation and track record of brutality, &quot;this was a bad actor, and the country&#039;s better off, the world&#039;s better off with Saddam gone, and I think we made the right decision, in spite of the fact that the original NIE was off in some of its major judgments.&quot;

I love how you call me the kool aid drinker when you can&#039;t even be intellectually honest about the situation.  It&#039;s not like GWB was the only one saying there were WMD.  The people that also saw the intelligence all thought he did as well, as well as the UN.  Do you think Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John Edwards, Tony Blair, and the rest of the people that said he had WMD and saw the same information as Bush were lying as well?  Of course you wouldn&#039;t say that, your Bush rage has blinded you too much.

I don&#039;t think the post invasion strategy was a good one, and I am glad that Petraus and Gates have righted the ship.  But if you think or say Iraq was better off, including the citizens and our interests in the area, you&#039;re either an idiot or you just can&#039;t see past your partisan hatred.[/quote]

Ok, cherry it is then...</description>
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<p><u><b>BklynHobo </b>wrote:</u></p>
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Gotta love the unbiased Wahington Post.  Here is Cheney&#8217;s exact quote from the ABC interview:</p>
<p>&#8220;As I look at the intelligence with respect to Iraq, what they got wrong was that there weren&#8217;t any stockpiles.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What they found was that Saddam Hussein still had the capability to produce weapons of mass destruction. He had the technology, he had the people, he had the basic feed stock.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cheney added that, given Saddam Hussein&#8217;s capabilities, reputation and track record of brutality, &#8220;this was a bad actor, and the country&#8217;s better off, the world&#8217;s better off with Saddam gone, and I think we made the right decision, in spite of the fact that the original NIE was off in some of its major judgments.&#8221;</p>
<p>I love how you call me the kool aid drinker when you can&#8217;t even be intellectually honest about the situation.  It&#8217;s not like GWB was the only one saying there were WMD.  The people that also saw the intelligence all thought he did as well, as well as the UN.  Do you think Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John Edwards, Tony Blair, and the rest of the people that said he had WMD and saw the same information as Bush were lying as well?  Of course you wouldn&#8217;t say that, your Bush rage has blinded you too much.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the post invasion strategy was a good one, and I am glad that Petraus and Gates have righted the ship.  But if you think or say Iraq was better off, including the citizens and our interests in the area, you&#8217;re either an idiot or you just can&#8217;t see past your partisan hatred.</p>
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<p>Ok, cherry it is then&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Skywalker</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/15584/comment-page-2#comment-123966</link>
		<dc:creator>Skywalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kool-Aid drinking was buying into Bush &amp; Co.&#039;s BS rah-rah sales job of the Iraq War -- imminent threat, uranium from Niger, meeting in Prague regarding the 9/11 connection, etc.  This has been documented as a sales job by Woodward, and acknowledged as such even by several Bush insiders who have since scaled the wall -- McClellan, Dowd, even Powell to a certain  extent. 

Intellectual honesty was seeing through the BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kool-Aid drinking was buying into Bush &amp; Co.&#8217;s BS rah-rah sales job of the Iraq War &#8212; imminent threat, uranium from Niger, meeting in Prague regarding the 9/11 connection, etc.  This has been documented as a sales job by Woodward, and acknowledged as such even by several Bush insiders who have since scaled the wall &#8212; McClellan, Dowd, even Powell to a certain  extent. </p>
<p>Intellectual honesty was seeing through the BS.</p>
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		<title>By: BklynHobo</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/15584/comment-page-2#comment-123959</link>
		<dc:creator>BklynHobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;123947&quot;][quote comment=&quot;123942&quot;][quote comment=&quot;123934&quot;]Funny on this bit from the White House reax to the NYT story:

&quot;The Times&#039; &#039;reporting&#039; in this story amounted to finding selected quotes to support a story the reporters fully intended to write from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#039;t fit their point of view.&quot;

Gee, Bush would never find selected intelligence to pitch a war the administration fully intended to launch from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#039;t fit his point of view -- would he?[/quote]

Take another sip of the Kool Aid.. :roll:[/quote]

Pot, meet kettle...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/21/AR2008122100869.html

&quot;In an interview with ABC News last week, Cheney suggested that the administration would have gone to war with Iraq even without erroneous intelligence showing that Saddam Hussein had developed weapons of mass destruction.&quot;

I would explain it to you, but it wouldn&#039;t do any good.  What&#039;s your preference?  Grape or Cherry?[/quote]

Gotta love the unbiased Wahington Post.  Here is Cheney&#039;s exact quote from the ABC interview:

&quot;As I look at the intelligence with respect to Iraq, what they got wrong was that there weren&#039;t any stockpiles.&quot;

&quot;What they found was that Saddam Hussein still had the capability to produce weapons of mass destruction. He had the technology, he had the people, he had the basic feed stock.&quot;

Cheney added that, given Saddam Hussein&#039;s capabilities, reputation and track record of brutality, &quot;this was a bad actor, and the country&#039;s better off, the world&#039;s better off with Saddam gone, and I think we made the right decision, in spite of the fact that the original NIE was off in some of its major judgments.&quot; 

I love how you call me the kool aid drinker when you can&#039;t even be intellectually honest about the situation.  It&#039;s not like GWB was the only one saying there were WMD.  The people that also saw the intelligence all thought he did as well, as well as the UN.  Do you think Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John Edwards, Tony Blair, and the rest of the people that said he had WMD and saw the same information as Bush were lying as well?  Of course you wouldn&#039;t say that, your Bush rage has blinded you too much.  

I don&#039;t think the post invasion strategy was a good one, and I am glad that Petraus and Gates have righted the ship.  But if you think or say Iraq was better off, including the citizens and our interests in the area, you&#039;re either an idiot or you just can&#039;t see past your partisan hatred.</description>
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<p><u><b>Easy-E </b>wrote:</u></p>
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<p><u><b>BklynHobo </b>wrote:</u></p>
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<p><u><b>Skywalker </b>wrote:</u></p>
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Funny on this bit from the White House reax to the NYT story:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Times&#8217; &#8216;reporting&#8217; in this story amounted to finding selected quotes to support a story the reporters fully intended to write from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#8217;t fit their point of view.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, Bush would never find selected intelligence to pitch a war the administration fully intended to launch from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#8217;t fit his point of view &#8212; would he?</p>
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<p>Take another sip of the Kool Aid.. <img src='http://hoboken411.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>Pot, meet kettle&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/21/AR2008122100869.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/21/AR2008122100869.html' target="_blank">washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/a...cle/2008/12/21/AR2008122100869.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;In an interview with ABC News last week, Cheney suggested that the administration would have gone to war with Iraq even without erroneous intelligence showing that Saddam Hussein had developed weapons of mass destruction.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would explain it to you, but it wouldn&#8217;t do any good.  What&#8217;s your preference?  Grape or Cherry?</p>
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<p>Gotta love the unbiased Wahington Post.  Here is Cheney&#8217;s exact quote from the ABC interview:</p>
<p>&#8220;As I look at the intelligence with respect to Iraq, what they got wrong was that there weren&#8217;t any stockpiles.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;What they found was that Saddam Hussein still had the capability to produce weapons of mass destruction. He had the technology, he had the people, he had the basic feed stock.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cheney added that, given Saddam Hussein&#8217;s capabilities, reputation and track record of brutality, &#8220;this was a bad actor, and the country&#8217;s better off, the world&#8217;s better off with Saddam gone, and I think we made the right decision, in spite of the fact that the original NIE was off in some of its major judgments.&#8221; </p>
<p>I love how you call me the kool aid drinker when you can&#8217;t even be intellectually honest about the situation.  It&#8217;s not like GWB was the only one saying there were WMD.  The people that also saw the intelligence all thought he did as well, as well as the UN.  Do you think Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John Edwards, Tony Blair, and the rest of the people that said he had WMD and saw the same information as Bush were lying as well?  Of course you wouldn&#8217;t say that, your Bush rage has blinded you too much.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the post invasion strategy was a good one, and I am glad that Petraus and Gates have righted the ship.  But if you think or say Iraq was better off, including the citizens and our interests in the area, you&#8217;re either an idiot or you just can&#8217;t see past your partisan hatred.</p>
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		<title>By: Easy-E</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/15584/comment-page-2#comment-123949</link>
		<dc:creator>Easy-E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this about 2 months ago.

It&#039;s so appropriate that these toolbags are all on Fox News.  They laughed in his face!!  I&#039;m surprised they didn&#039;t have O&#039;Rielly yelling at him for good measure.

What a double edged sword, you&#039;re proven right about something that sucks for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this about 2 months ago.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so appropriate that these toolbags are all on Fox News.  They laughed in his face!!  I&#8217;m surprised they didn&#8217;t have O&#8217;Rielly yelling at him for good measure.</p>
<p>What a double edged sword, you&#8217;re proven right about something that sucks for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Easy-E</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/15584/comment-page-2#comment-123947</link>
		<dc:creator>Easy-E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;123942&quot;][quote comment=&quot;123934&quot;]Funny on this bit from the White House reax to the NYT story:

&quot;The Times&#039; &#039;reporting&#039; in this story amounted to finding selected quotes to support a story the reporters fully intended to write from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#039;t fit their point of view.&quot;

Gee, Bush would never find selected intelligence to pitch a war the administration fully intended to launch from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#039;t fit his point of view -- would he?[/quote]

Take another sip of the Kool Aid.. :roll:[/quote]

Pot, meet kettle...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/21/AR2008122100869.html

&quot;In an interview with ABC News last week, Cheney suggested that the administration would have gone to war with Iraq even without erroneous intelligence showing that Saddam Hussein had developed weapons of mass destruction.&quot;

I would explain it to you, but it wouldn&#039;t do any good.  What&#039;s your preference?  Grape or Cherry?</description>
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<p><u><b>BklynHobo </b>wrote:</u></p>
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<p><u><b>Skywalker </b>wrote:</u></p>
<blockquote cite="http://hoboken411.com/archives/15584#comment-123934"><p>
Funny on this bit from the White House reax to the NYT story:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Times&#8217; &#8216;reporting&#8217; in this story amounted to finding selected quotes to support a story the reporters fully intended to write from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#8217;t fit their point of view.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, Bush would never find selected intelligence to pitch a war the administration fully intended to launch from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#8217;t fit his point of view &#8212; would he?</p>
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<p>Take another sip of the Kool Aid.. <img src='http://hoboken411.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>Pot, meet kettle&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/21/AR2008122100869.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a><a href='http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/21/AR2008122100869.html' target="_blank">washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/a...cle/2008/12/21/AR2008122100869.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;In an interview with ABC News last week, Cheney suggested that the administration would have gone to war with Iraq even without erroneous intelligence showing that Saddam Hussein had developed weapons of mass destruction.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would explain it to you, but it wouldn&#8217;t do any good.  What&#8217;s your preference?  Grape or Cherry?</p>
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		<title>By: Skywalker</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/15584/comment-page-2#comment-123946</link>
		<dc:creator>Skywalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;123942&quot;][quote comment=&quot;123934&quot;]Funny on this bit from the White House reax to the NYT story:

&quot;The Times&#039; &#039;reporting&#039; in this story amounted to finding selected quotes to support a story the reporters fully intended to write from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#039;t fit their point of view.&quot;

Gee, Bush would never find selected intelligence to pitch a war the administration fully intended to launch from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#039;t fit his point of view -- would he?[/quote]

Take another sip of the Kool Aid.. :roll:[/quote]

I can&#039;t, apparently you polished off the pitcher.    :lol:</description>
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<p><u><b>BklynHobo </b>wrote:</u></p>
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<p><u><b>Skywalker </b>wrote:</u></p>
<blockquote cite="http://hoboken411.com/archives/15584#comment-123934"><p>
Funny on this bit from the White House reax to the NYT story:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Times&#8217; &#8216;reporting&#8217; in this story amounted to finding selected quotes to support a story the reporters fully intended to write from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#8217;t fit their point of view.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, Bush would never find selected intelligence to pitch a war the administration fully intended to launch from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#8217;t fit his point of view &#8212; would he?</p>
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<p>Take another sip of the Kool Aid.. <img src='http://hoboken411.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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<p>I can&#8217;t, apparently you polished off the pitcher.    <img src='http://hoboken411.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BklynHobo</title>
		<link>http://hoboken411.com/archives/15584/comment-page-2#comment-123942</link>
		<dc:creator>BklynHobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;123934&quot;]Funny on this bit from the White House reax to the NYT story:

&quot;The Times&#039; &#039;reporting&#039; in this story amounted to finding selected quotes to support a story the reporters fully intended to write from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#039;t fit their point of view.&quot;

Gee, Bush would never find selected intelligence to pitch a war the administration fully intended to launch from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#039;t fit his point of view -- would he?[/quote]

Take another sip of the Kool Aid.. :roll:</description>
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Funny on this bit from the White House reax to the NYT story:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Times&#8217; &#8216;reporting&#8217; in this story amounted to finding selected quotes to support a story the reporters fully intended to write from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#8217;t fit their point of view.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, Bush would never find selected intelligence to pitch a war the administration fully intended to launch from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#8217;t fit his point of view &#8212; would he?</p>
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<p>Take another sip of the Kool Aid.. <img src='http://hoboken411.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Skywalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skywalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny on this bit from the White House reax to the NYT story: 

&quot;The Times&#039; &#039;reporting&#039; in this story amounted to finding selected quotes to support a story the reporters fully intended to write from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#039;t fit their point of view.&quot;

Gee, Bush would never find selected intelligence to pitch a war the administration fully intended to launch from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#039;t fit his point of view -- would he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny on this bit from the White House reax to the NYT story: </p>
<p>&#8220;The Times&#8217; &#8216;reporting&#8217; in this story amounted to finding selected quotes to support a story the reporters fully intended to write from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#8217;t fit their point of view.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, Bush would never find selected intelligence to pitch a war the administration fully intended to launch from the onset, while disregarding anything that didn&#8217;t fit his point of view &#8212; would he?</p>
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