Why is the PATH so slow?

12/3/2008:

Boy, this must be “Hate the PATH train week!”

Hoboken411 reader Stephen is frustrated with slow as a snail pace the Hoboken train takes when leaving the terminal.

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What’s the damn holdup?

“Quick question…. why when leaving the Hoboken Terminal, toward 33rd Street, does the PATH always move painfully slow for the first 5 minutes, even if its been 30 minutes since the last train?? There can’t possibly be any trains coming or nearby… it’s ridiculously frustrating…”

Does anyone else feel the same way?

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65 Comments on "Why is the PATH so slow?"

leopapi
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leopapi

Quoting ‘cooldude’: “There is a switch about 1 min out of Hoboken. The train can go straight to jersey city or left, to New York. I was told that the management at the port authority is made up of political appointees and political contributors who have mo transportation or engineering background. They do not budget much for track maintenance.”

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Wow, 64 posts and FINALLY someone makes sense, lol.. Pretty much, that’s the real reason right there!! Political Patronage Jobs.. ’nuff said! 🙄

NJDevils1087
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NJDevils1087
You don’t need to close Hoboken Terminal to do major track reconfigurations… there are 3 tracks/platforms. You do one at a time in the station proper. For the tunnels… there are 2 tracks.. the first step is to install switches like the ones that exist on the speed straight between JSQ and Harrison (prior to meeting the NE Corridor proper) in the openings prior to 9th/14th/23rd. This allows you to make progress up the tunnel without disrupting service much at all. With such a system (the switches being installed on weekends with special service; maybe even a 45-60 minute overnight headway to get the final link-in work done) this could be achieved if the Port Authority had any sort of competent organization. Additionally, I’d like to add my gripe. Thanks to NJ Transit not providing any direct access out of Hudson County on weekends (since there are a grand total of like 5 direct HOB-Newark Broad Street trains), public transit to Montclair from our fine town takes almost 2 hours and requires the PATH or an hour long wait at Secaucus. I elected to use the PATH this past weekend only to find that JSQ-NWK service was suspended in both directions for almost an hour at 5PM on a Saturday. The system was a mad house with no organization whatsoever. Apparently one of the PATH trains hit a deer and resulted in a police investigation. But I ask PATH — there are 2 (and in some places 3!!!) tracks between… Read more »
cooldude
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cooldude
You are right. Switches need to be constructed between 9th and Christopher street. This would allow the 10 minute trip from Hoboken to 9th Street where passengers could change to another train to go farther. This would allow a 15 min cycle time and only use one of the two tracks. Without this switch, the minium cycle time for Hoboken to 33rd would be 30 min using a single track. This is why 30 min head-ways are used overnight when PATH does most of their maintenance. Now as for the slowness coming out of Hoboken going to 33rd, I have asked around and I have a version of the story. There is a switch about 1 min out of Hoboken. The train can go straight to jersey city or left, to New York. I was told that the management at the port authority is made up of political appointees and political contributors who have mo transportation or engineering background. They do not budget much for track maintenance. On this switch there was a derailment. The old switch was replaced, bit the there was a string of 7 more derailments at this location. Even though trains ran through this switch for over 100 years, now the PA blamed the train operators for running the trains too fast. Since the trains don’t have speedometers, radar speed signs were placed at the switch to alert operators of the train’s speed. Operators were told to run the trains at 5 mph for the entire… Read more »
mooshu
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mooshu

[quote comment=”121953″]mooshu, you and PORK have pretty simliar posts. Related? Or is he your side kick?

Have a Shandong of a weekend![/quote]

HEY! Perhaps PORK’s posts are similar to mine. But mine are not similar to PORK’s ;).

The only things that tie us together are:

1. my knowledge of him/her nearly having choked on a cigarette butt
2. the cuteness of our naturally matching usernames

Otherwise, no need to be jealous! Still love ‘ya, Midnight. And I don’t have sidekicks– I work alone.

He ping!:mrgreen:

MidnightRacer
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mooshu, you and PORK have pretty simliar posts. Related? Or is he your side kick?

Have a Shandong of a weekend!

mooshu
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mooshu
[quote comment=”121911″]do you really want to go down this road with me? i don’t think you do. you can take the NJ drivers language in arabic,chinese,french,japanese,korean,polish,portuguese.russian and spanish. those that cannot read may have an oral exam conducted in English and spanish. do you think those countries would allow me to sneak into their country, present myself at a govt office and demand they give me a drivers license test in English, then let me stay in their country illegally and vote? what do you think it costs NJ and the US govt to accomodate all these illegals? WHAT THE F8CK IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY?[/quote] Hey, douchebag. Perhaps immigrants don’t speak the language as *be-e-e-autifully* and eloquently as you have typed it, here. But, for God’s sake, they certainly understand it. If not, they wouldn’t be able to follow any instructions and to hold onto a job that you’d rather not have. Think about it. Not all companies in this country have translators to help them out, so some immigrants have to take a “crash-course” and learn whatever they can as quickly as possible. Those who do not have a perfect handle on the English language (which, by the way, is NOT the easiest language to learn from scratch– it even takes U.S. natives YEARS to get the grammar part, right Strand?) do not suffer beneath your rubber sole. My parents cannot write perfectly, but they speak and comprehend the English language very, very well. And they also possess… Read more »
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