Hoboken Legal Beagle – 9/9/2008

9/9/2008:

Back from hiatus, the Hoboken411 Legal Beagle answers a simple question about what to do about exterior condo modifications and fire escapes:

What to do about fire escapes?

“I’m not sure who to reach out to on this but I have a question regarding the codes for fire escapes in Hoboken. We recently bought a first floor condo in Hoboken and have a private yard deeded to our unit only. The building consists of four floors and each floor has their own fire escape landing leading from a back door with stairs to the floor below them.

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Most of the units use this as a balcony area as the landings are fairly large. We were looking into reconstructing the last landing on the building by replacing the stairs which come into our yard area with a drop down ladder instead. In looking at other building in the area, it doesn’t seem to be a code to have a full flight of stairs leading down to the least few feet of the building. We obviously do not want to make the building any less safe. I’ve tried contacting the city, looking up the fire codes and I’ve looked thru NJ’s Rehabilitation subcode’s but I am having a hard time finding information pertaining to this particular situation.

Do you know who I can speak to or if this information is printed anywhere online?”

Hoboken411 Legal Beagle says:

Hoboken411 legal adviceI doubt if you will find anything directly on point.

This is the sort of thing that you really need to have an architect review and draw up plans and have them submitted to the Building Department.

Even though an architect should know how the various code and regulations would apply the final authority would be the building department.

[411 Note: Thanks for the three-sentence reply, Dog! Anyway, I bet all you were wondering “what happened to the Legal Beagle lately?” Well the pooch was quite busy with legal issues involving dog houses, stolen bones and illegitimate puppies, but is back in full effect now.

So if you want your questions answered, send email to Hoboken411@gmail.com (you MUST put this in the subject, or it’ll be ignored: “Hoboken411 Legal Question“), and each week I’ll pick one (or maybe two – depending on the simplicity) question(s) that will be responded to by Hoboken411’s legal mastermind.]

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5 Comments on "Hoboken Legal Beagle – 9/9/2008"


Sgt.Slaughter
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Sgt.Slaughter
8 years 18 days ago

what a crock of shit! no wonder we dont have enough money in the city. crooks like this not paying what the rest of us should. I pay more for my 800 sq ft rat trap condo than he does for that huge house on Hudson street

stevens32
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stevens32
8 years 19 days ago

[quote comment=”104670″]Whatever you do, use an out of town architect if you want to avoid being taken advantage of by the architect and city. It may slow down your job being the city and architects work together ( I learned fairly quickly). How the city gets away with it is beyond me. ……… i have dealt with 3 architects in this down and have a good review on each.

p.s. does anyone know what the mayor pays in property tax?[/quote]

Sgt Slaughter – the Mayor’s house (618 Hudson St) is in his wife’s name (Ann Roberts). The house had been previously owned by the Roberts Family Partnership and transferred to his wife in April of this year. The Mayor and his wife pay $6,005.43 on a house that is 3,320 square feet. Great rates, huh?

Here’s the link for more information:
tax1.co.monmouth.nj.us/cgi-bin/m4.c...;block=217.1&lot=22&qual=

Sgt.Slaughter
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Sgt.Slaughter
8 years 19 days ago

Whatever you do, use an out of town architect if you want to avoid being taken advantage of by the architect and city. It may slow down your job being the city and architects work together ( I learned fairly quickly). How the city gets away with it is beyond me. ……… i have dealt with 3 architects in this down and have a good review on each.

p.s. does anyone know what the mayor pays in property tax?

personalt
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personalt
8 years 19 days ago
Legal beagle blows again….. does this guy ever get one right? Homeworld’s idea would work in theory but not in reality. This is a multfamily building in Hoboken, you are expected to know what you are doing when you go down there. If you went down there asking a ton of questions they will ask you to send the architect or iron guy down. but back to how bad the beagle blows… There is a formal technical doc that spells this out state.nj.us/dca/codes/bulletins_fto...t_of_formal_tech_opinions/fto_3.pdf F. LADDERS: Fixed and counterbalanced ladders shall be permitted from lowest platform landing to grade, where either a fixed stair flight or a counterbalanced swinging stair is not feasible due to site constraints. Ladders must be vertical or positively inclined. No negatively inclined ladders will be permitted. Minimum clearance between center of rungs and building walls shall be 7 inches. Ladders shall be of steel construction, and shall be not less than 1/2 inch by 2 1/2 inches in size and not less than 16 inches apart. Rungs shall be not less than 7/8-inch diameter, shall be welded to rails, and shall not be spaced less than 10 inches or more than 12 inches on center. The lowest rung shall not be more than 12 inches above the level of the ground or landing platform. Al/Ray may have their own requirements but I know of 2 or 3 buildings that were rehabbed in the past two years that got new fire escapes exactly as you mentioned. For… Read more »
homeworld
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8 years 19 days ago

The construction office should be able to answer this type of question for you when you call them. If not, submit a letter in writing with your question.

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