80 Responses to ** McCain’s Nightmare **

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1. 61. Katie_Scarlett | August 29th, 2008 at 11:55 am

   jscirish27 wrote:

   Libertarians unite. It is our only hope. We have to break the cycle of the two party system that is sinking this country. We can have more of the same or more of the same and higher taxes. This is why politics in this country is so bleak for me.

   Agreed. If McCain had picked Romney, I’d have voted McCain. This pick has made both candidates unpalatable, and away I go to the libertarian candidate - hopefully enough ppl will follow to get that party federal funds in the next election cycle.

   RIDICULOUS.

2. 62. MidnightRacer | August 29th, 2008 at 11:59 am

   And Perot gives the win to Clinton 1992. Well done.

3. 63. Katie_Scarlett | August 29th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

   MidnightRacer wrote:

   And Perot gives the win to Clinton 1992. Well done.

   MidnightRacer wrote:

   And Perot gives the win to Clinton 1992. Well done.

   Believe me, that is on my mind, it really is. But I cannot in good conscience put a 72 yr old man in office with a conservative woman who stands for a lot of the same ideals that I dislike about Bush. If McCain were 60, I’d be less upset. 72, he could die!! I don’t want another minute of conservatives in office after January of this year. EVER.

4. 64. bradykp | August 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pm

   Katie_Scarlett wrote:

   MidnightRacer wrote:

   And Perot gives the win to Clinton 1992. Well done.

   MidnightRacer wrote:

   And Perot gives the win to Clinton 1992. Well done.

   Believe me, that is on my mind, it really is. But I cannot in good conscience put a 72 yr old man in office with a conservative woman who stands for a lot of the same ideals that I dislike about Bush. If McCain were 60, I’d be less upset. 72, he could die!! I don’t want another minute of conservatives in office after January of this year. EVER.

   i gotta say that Katie makes a great point here. Midnight, it’s thoughts like that that prevent people from voting what they believe in and settling for a candidate because it’s somewhat closer than his main “opponent”. but I would love to see libertarians and green party gain some more respect in the elections.

5. 65. MidnightRacer | August 29th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

   I don’t know where to post this, but it’s breaking news from Poland’s news sources. Russia has issued a direct warning to Poland and Germany - that on Monday, Russia would punish Poland and German with a military response.

   Lukoil is Russia’s largest oil company who has told workers that no one is to go anywhere beginning this weekend. Then people in Russia are being told not to leave the country.

   Sanctions are to come against Russia cutting off business with them and the E.U. as well as other nations.

   (I don’t know if this is going to happen, just reporting the news from foreign news sources)

6. 66. bradykp | August 29th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

   murph wrote:

   Palin undercuts the central premise of the GOP argument against Obama: that he’s inexperienced. She’s been the governor of a small state for less than two years, before that was the mayor of a town 1/5 the size of Hoboken. McCain is a 72 year-old cancer survivor, and his VP’s worth a hard look.

   Zero foreign-policy creds, zero experience with the economy. She’s also right in the middle of a medium-sized scandal in Alaska, her very own Troopergate.

   Possibly the worst choice he could have made.

   i’m quite surprised honestly. this would be like if my father (he’s mayor of our tiny town), ran for PA governor and somehow won (i don’t know how she got there, i’m sure she deserved it - but it’s quite a jump), and then got picked to be VP. i love my dad, but he’d be a terrible VP.

   emarche wrote:

   Diverse ticket yes, but keep in mind that she also has experience winning tight elections with virtually insurmountable odds. She also has demonstrated (at the very least) a modicum of integrity by cleaning house and ratting out a few corrupt government officials…from her own party. This’ll be interesting to watch.

   elections? plural? mayor of a small town and governor? i guess so. i’d say election(s) though…

7. 67. emarche | August 29th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

   So why not use this year as a starting point and commit to helping the Libertarian party (or other party of your choice) build their level of influence so that..who knows..maybe 4 years from now - after Obama or McCain have screwed us sideways - we might have some better alternatives to the same ol’ same ol’. What do you think?

8. 68. bradykp | August 29th, 2008 at 12:16 pm

   emarche wrote:

   murph wrote:

   Palin undercuts the central premise of the GOP argument against Obama: that he’s inexperienced. She’s been the governor of a small state for less than two years, before that was the mayor of a town 1/5 the size of Hoboken. McCain is a 72 year-old cancer survivor, and his VP’s worth a hard look.

   Zero foreign-policy creds, zero experience with the economy. She’s also right in the middle of a medium-sized scandal in Alaska, her very own Troopergate.

   Possibly the worst choice he could have made.

   Do you know the story behind ‘Troopergate’ or are you simply grabbing at straws? It’s worth revisiting the facts of the case before you label it a ’scandal’.

   they actually were interviewing a guy running for rep in alaska on the radio the other day and they spoke about it. they say she had other reasons to have the trooper fired, but it’s currently a scandal, as labeled by the alaskan media.

   i’m sure we’ll learn a lot about it over the next week or so though.
   

   also, i cannot believe the guy from the Obama campaign is saying that palin is “a heartbeat away” from the presidency. that is just disgustingly distasteful (though somewhat true).

9. 69. Katie_Scarlett | August 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

   Hey guys, every election whenever the VP is chosen (including a week ago when Obama picked Biden) they say the heartbeat line. Literally, the VP is ALWAYS a heartbeat away from the presidency.

   Oh boy, here comes the announcement. Yippie skippy.

10. 70. bradykp | August 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    murph wrote:

    emarche wrote:

    murph wrote:

    Palin undercuts the central premise of the GOP argument against Obama: that he’s inexperienced. She’s been the governor of a small state for less than two years, before that was the mayor of a town 1/5 the size of Hoboken. McCain is a 72 year-old cancer survivor, and his VP’s worth a hard look.

    Zero foreign-policy creds, zero experience with the economy. She’s also right in the middle of a medium-sized scandal in Alaska, her very own Troopergate.

    Possibly the worst choice he could have made.

    Do you know the story behind ‘Troopergate’ or are you simply grabbing at straws? It’s worth revisiting the facts of the case before you label it a ’scandal’.

    Her brother-in-law was a state trooper, and involved in a contentious custody battle with Palin’s sister. He was fired from the state police. A member of Palin’s staff pressured the public safety director into firing her brother-in-law. She has admitted as much herself, earlier this month, though denies knowing about it beforehand.

    Not the biggest deal in the world, but it’s getting press and there’s a special commission in AK investigating. In presidential politics, it’s the sort of thing that can matter.

    they actually fired the director, as i understand it, because he didn’t want to fire the trooper. it was said that there were other reasons, and that the troopers actions were just part of why they didn’t think he had the proper character to be a trooper. that’s what i gathered on the radio the other day when they interviewed a guy running for congress that was in her office (i forget what position)

11. 71. bradykp | August 29th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    Katie_Scarlett wrote:

    Hey guys, every election whenever the VP is chosen (including a week ago when Obama picked Biden) they say the heartbeat line. Literally, the VP is ALWAYS a heartbeat away from the presidency.

    Oh boy, here comes the announcement. Yippie skippy.

    oh really? ok then. i never heard it before. it just sounds horrible in the context of mccain. i thought it was distasteful. if it’s normal though, then that’s ok.

12. 72. bradykp | August 29th, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    emarche wrote:

    http://www.vpilf.com/

    Oddly enough, not a porn site.

    wow. hilarious they got it up that fast.

13. 73. bradykp | August 29th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    emarche wrote:

    So why not use this year as a starting point and commit to helping the Libertarian party (or other party of your choice) build their level of influence so that..who knows..maybe 4 years from now - after Obama or McCain have screwed us sideways - we might have some better alternatives to the same ol’ same ol’. What do you think?

    i think with the grassroots campaigning that people can organize, there has been no better time to do that if you chose to. it’s very easy to get people together these days with the internet and technology.

14. 74. bradykp | August 29th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    uhoh - she was a union member, and is married to a union member. this has to ruffle some feathers. eh?

    alaska is basically canada right? think she says “eh”?

15. 75. Hobo91 | August 29th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    MidnightRacer wrote:

    I don’t know where to post this, but it’s breaking news from Poland’s news sources. Russia has issued a direct warning to Poland and Germany - that on Monday, Russia would punish Poland and German with a military response.

    Lukoil is Russia’s largest oil company who has told workers that no one is to go anywhere beginning this weekend. Then people in Russia are being told not to leave the country.

    Sanctions are to come against Russia cutting off business with them and the E.U. as well as other nations.

    (I don’t know if this is going to happen, just reporting the news from foreign news sources)

    Can’t find this headline anywhere…oil would be up 5% on news like this…..it’s flat the past 30 mins

16. 76. MidnightRacer | August 29th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    You can’t find it on US news sites. It’s all over polish news, some europe, and lots on russian news.

17. 77. bradykp | August 29th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    MidnightRacer wrote:

    You can’t find it on US news sites. It’s all over polish news, some europe, and lots on russian news.

    hobo is right though, the oil markets would have known about this and gona crazy. post some links?

18. 78. MidnightRacer | August 29th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Alright, so this is what happened. The EU was about to create economic sanctions against Russia. Russia had already warned Poland and other countries of a military response to various issues. As the EU was preparing sanctions, Russia threatened Poland and Germany that it would cut or dramatically reduce its oil through the northern and southern streams to them and cut their oil to Europe. This has gotten the EU to weaken and state that they will now delay the sanctions a bit. Lots going on.

    Russia is already planning to cut oil to these countries on Monday, September 1. Situation forming with Lukoil and retention of its workers locally in case of emergency.

    It’s all developing. If I hear more, I’ll post. But I’m leaving work for the day. Stay tuned.

19. 79. bradykp | August 29th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    MidnightRacer wrote:

    Alright, so this is what happened. The EU was about to create economic sanctions against Russia. Russia had already warned Poland and other countries of a military response to various issues. As the EU was preparing sanctions, Russia threatened Poland and Germany that it would cut or dramatically reduce its oil through the northern and southern streams to them and cut their oil to Europe. This has gotten the EU to weaken and state that they will now delay the sanctions a bit. Lots going on.

    Russia is already planning to cut oil to these countries on Monday, September 1. Situation forming with Lukoil and retention of its workers locally in case of emergency.

    It’s all developing. If I hear more, I’ll post. But I’m leaving work for the day. Stay tuned.

    nothing on bbc.

    can you PLEASE post a link? jeez.

20. 80. YipYap | August 29th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Here is a link to the Russian on Oil and the EU.

    telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/08/29/cnrussia129.xml

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