Beware: Pervert at Church Square

7/13/2008:

Reported on the Live Hoboken police and fire scanner:

“Heavy set white male, grey shirt, camouflage vest, ripped shorts. Apparently exposing himself in the kids area of Church Square Park.”

Where do these freaks come from??

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159 Comments on "Beware: Pervert at Church Square"

bradykp
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bradykp

[quote comment=”93488″][quote comment=”93422″][you say government can not be everywhere….fine. but you say people are everywhere.[/quote]

logistics, dude.

Do you know how much the police force appreciates authorized civilian help? Whether it be budget deficit reasons, or limited numbers on the forced spread too thin to not cover the right areas at the right times, civilians/residents will always outnumber both the police and the perps. Imagine if there was a standard procedure to confront and possibly civilian arrest (yes it’s legal – see details with HPD). It’s not utopian because it’s not necessary for all of the public to do it, only a significant number. I’ll sign up if there is a thing. Back in college (UT – Austin), plenty of us guys in signed up to walk people to late night classes, or to the residential buildings. It was all organized. And if you weren’t serving and something happened to another escort, you’d jump in and kknow exactly what to do. Confidence from training. I kind of wished that the city would organize something like this in community centers. And that if you signed up, you would get a tax deduction – since thwarting crime actually saves a town money.[/quote]

ok, that ends it for me. you are “disagreeing” with me by stating my arguments in different words. have i not repeatedly said that citizens need to help out law enforcement and use things like neighborhood watch? jeez….i’m on to the next thread. signing off.

bradykp
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bradykp
[quote comment=”93483″]Again, I’m mostly from Texas, but have lived in many place here and abroad, so I’ve been around and have seen a diversity of behavior – people are not all the same as NYC in the 60’s. Some are, some are not. I don’t call for 100% of the population to do something. What I do say is that training and standards contribute to confidence and support of stranger in need of protection until the police arrive. Even one person is an infinite improvement over none.[/quote] i’ve argued this on other threads and you’ve seen it. in fact, a lot of people disagreed with me on that thread (i don’t understand why, but they did). they all said that the best thing to do is to just give the robber what he wants and walk away safe – yes, the thread was about getting robbed at gunpoint, but my point was that we should all be better trained in self defense and be more aware of our surroundings for situations where we can help ourselves, gun notwithstanding. as for being around, i’m from pennsylvania originally. i’ve spent time in various parts of PA, NY, Canada, Florida, California, Georgia, Czech Republic, Italy, Germany, Mexico, Ireland, and many other places as well. Maybe it’s not NYC in the 60s, but that event led to a psychiatric experiment that was widely spoken about and still is in psych classes. the fact of the matter is that in many cases, people think that… Read more »
bradykp
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bradykp
[quote comment=”93477″]So if you believe in something, should you not also be confrontational face to face? Anonymity shouldn’t matter. If it does, then perhaps (IMO) there is a conflict in some peoples’ inaction in public within a situation where they wish they could so something but choose inaction even if it’s against their inclination. If you stand up for someone and all you do is use words, no one can sue you. But hey, if they want a round or two, let’s get it on. Otherwise, I truly believe that criminals smell inaction and timidness which enable their criminal behavior. That puts full advantage in their court. I’m from Texas. Was there when the Luby’s massacre occured in Killeen, TX. Right after that incident (I think ~26 people were murdered), there was a serious debate on whether or not to pass the concealed weapons legislation. Many said there’d be more killings by guns. But after it did pass and was enacted, gun permits went through the roof and actual crime (robberies & burglaries) dropped drastically, AND killings by gun dropped. Could speculate why. But I know that it put fear into criminals [quote comment=”93469″]the internet throws all those rules aside. none of us are confronting you since we don’t see your face and you don’t see ours. i’m not shy about these conversations in person, but many people are, and they use the internet to be a lot tougher or argumentative than they really are. i’m sure i speak differently… Read more »
albertross
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albertross

Well I’ve read most of the postings. Seems everyone wants something done. Well you know what? You want things taken care of, you’ll need money. That means taxes. And you’re complaining about taxes now. Are you prepared to deal with it? And education and the crumbling infrastructure needs funding too. And then there’s health care….

and to the neckbone who inferred that I’m a crack head, pogue mahone you wad.

MidnightRacer
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[quote comment=”93422″][you say government can not be everywhere….fine. but you say people are everywhere.[/quote]

logistics, dude.

Do you know how much the police force appreciates authorized civilian help? Whether it be budget deficit reasons, or limited numbers on the forced spread too thin to not cover the right areas at the right times, civilians/residents will always outnumber both the police and the perps. Imagine if there was a standard procedure to confront and possibly civilian arrest (yes it’s legal – see details with HPD). It’s not utopian because it’s not necessary for all of the public to do it, only a significant number. I’ll sign up if there is a thing. Back in college (UT – Austin), plenty of us guys in signed up to walk people to late night classes, or to the residential buildings. It was all organized. And if you weren’t serving and something happened to another escort, you’d jump in and kknow exactly what to do. Confidence from training. I kind of wished that the city would organize something like this in community centers. And that if you signed up, you would get a tax deduction – since thwarting crime actually saves a town money.

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