Robbery at gunpoint

7/2/2008:

I missed this one due to an unexpected blissful slumber, but one 411 reader reported a crime (and possible car-jacking) involving a handgun over near 5th street early this morning):

“Tuned in kind of late….5th street, 2 women. Blackberries, 2 wallets taken by 2 males wearing blue jeans, thin, black shirts and silver gun. Took off westbound.”

Been slacking on the crime-map as of late…

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94 Comments on "Robbery at gunpoint"


a_siren
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8 years 2 months ago
[quote comment=”91149″]Hi – this was just sent to me – this was actually my girlfriend and I (I’m a dude fyi) and it was at midnight last night. They approached from the west and snuck up on us without notice pulling a gun and asking for specific valuable including the keys to the car that they saw us pull up in and park on Willow between 4th and 5th on the East Side. Just so everyone knows – until you are in that situation you won’t understand what is the right or wrong way to approach; every situation is different. When a gun is pointed at you, you give them what they want because bottom line is whatever is in that wallet is not as valuable as whom you are with. We were told by the police in response to my mentioning thoughts of catching them off guard as they ran away – that amateurs ESPECIALLY are the worst to catch off guard because they are the first to act irrationally, i.e. cap one of us. There words, not mine. In our situation they took our blackberries and wallets and 600$ cash but we were both safe and the cops were extremely responsive and very helpful. I’m certain that mace doesn’t beat gun – this is not paper rock scissors – and that my doing something stupid to jeopardize the safety of my girlfriend was not worth any amount of money. To give you an idea of what they look… Read more »
elainetyger
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elainetyger
8 years 2 months ago
What Nacholibre said about making contact. I work in a couple of very crappy neighborhoods, and whenever I pass someone who is even half looking at me, I smile and say hello, no matter how creepy or threatening they may look. Another time, in the Lincoln Square theatre, about 15 minutes from the end of a movie during a battle scene, this guy tries to climb over me to sit down. There were about 20 people in the whole theatre as the movie was a matinee and out for a few weeks already. I yelled at him go sit somewhere else, but he pushed my legs aside and sat down 2 seats away from me. I picked up all my stuff and moved to another section of the theatre. On the way out, I went to report this to security — there was none as they only have security on the weekends — and found a woman using the phone at the information desk because someone had robbed her wallet from her purse while she was watching the Imax. I had to wait a good 15 minutes to speak to a manager, and it turned out to be someone under 30 who had no idea that a woman had been robbed and that a diffferent manager had already questioned her with the NYPD. I would have been willing to go to the different theatres and other likely hideout spots with security to try to find the guy who climbed over… Read more »
Rocker182
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Rocker182
8 years 2 months ago
[quote comment=”91149″]Hi – this was just sent to me – this was actually my girlfriend and I (I’m a dude fyi) and it was at midnight last night. They approached from the west and snuck up on us without notice pulling a gun and asking for specific valuable including the keys to the car that they saw us pull up in and park on Willow between 4th and 5th on the East Side. Just so everyone knows – until you are in that situation you won’t understand what is the right or wrong way to approach; every situation is different. When a gun is pointed at you, you give them what they want because bottom line is whatever is in that wallet is not as valuable as whom you are with. We were told by the police in response to my mentioning thoughts of catching them off guard as they ran away – that amateurs ESPECIALLY are the worst to catch off guard because they are the first to act irrationally, i.e. cap one of us. There words, not mine. In our situation they took our blackberries and wallets and 600$ cash but we were both safe and the cops were extremely responsive and very helpful. I’m certain that mace doesn’t beat gun – this is not paper rock scissors – and that my doing something stupid to jeopardize the safety of my girlfriend was not worth any amount of money. To give you an idea of what they look… Read more »
nacholibre
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nacholibre
8 years 2 months ago
Happy 4th, thought I would weigh in…I was a cop for several years and am now with the feds. One thing I saw in 98% of the reports I handled was that when a victim offered some form of resistance, everything from yelling, running away, or fighting back, the bad guys gave up and fled. Most criminals are lazy opportunists (hence their career choice, or lack thereof) and don’t want to put forth any effort. At the same time, I have always been trained, even if armed while being victimized, the safest thing to do is be a good witness and not escalate the situation and play it safe. So in the end, it is a judgment call based on the totality of the circumstances, the threat perceived, and your skill and equipment. Several other posters did note one universal truth….criminals look for the meek and just looking down or looking ill at ease is a red flag. If you see someone that doesn’t look right, make eye contact and let them know you see them, know what they look like and what they are up to. Someone less perceptive will walk by shortly. If something doesn’t look right, trust your instinct. I was overseas and when I walked through a tunnel, a guy who was lingering by the entrance immediately followed me in. Instead of worrying about offending him, I made a quick u-turn, looked him in the eye, and took a detour. Maybe nothing, maybe something. Criminals prey… Read more »
Journey
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Journey
8 years 2 months ago

[quote comment=”91461″]Whats wrong with the tried and true kick in the balls then run like hell. But if a firearm involved do not resist give the badguys whatever they want.[/quote]

The one thing you should resist is going with them, in a car, alley, any place where they have even more control and you less safety.

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