Hoboken Bike Paths

5/26/2009 Update:

Hey, it looks like one long parking space!

A Hoboken411 reader sent in a few cameraphone pics in of one of the many daily “bike lane blockers” in town. They found this one especially noteworthy because it was blocking a “rare but good parking spot.”

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See more about Hoboken bike lanes after the jump…

4/17/2009 Update:

The bike lanes in the back of town were painted yesterday. Shouldn’t a city-wide party be in order?

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See original updates after the below…

3/31/2009 Update:

A Hoboken411 reader sent this picture in and said:

“Here’s a photo from my apartment window taken this evening at 6:30PM of the new bike lanes a.k.a the new double parking lanes on Madison between 3rd and 4th. It’s usually busier with double parked cars and usually with a police cruiser or fire truck double parked on a run into Biggie’s. Good luck to the bike lanes but with the realities of parking in Hoboken and the lack of enforcement for double parking it seems sadly doomed!”

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3/30/2009 Update:

Bike lanes coming to town

Ian Sacs, who volunteered to make these new bike paths a reality in Hoboken says:

“This is a fantastic big leap for Hoboken where many streets are as wide as NJ Turnpike lanes and cars zip down them at dangerous speeds. As you know I volunteered with many others such as Juan Melli, Jacob Mason, and more to assist the Traffic and Parking sub-committee members in promoting the idea and preparing a resolution last year. The bike lanes are a “two for one” deal by making a fair portion of our public space (a.k.a. streets) available for bikes to share safely with cars and simultaneously creating a narrower drive lane that has a psychological effect to slow down drivers (their so-called “perceived risk” goes up so they slow down). Can’t wait until the lanes are in place for the entire length of Madison and Grand streets (one-way north and south) giving bikers more incentive to get out on the road safely and maybe encourage some Hobokenites to get out of their cars to make a cross-town trip! Just in time for spring and earth day! cheers!”


(Thanks to Ian and Brett for the photos…)

We need more!

Personally, I believe if these bike lanes were on each and every Hoboken road – that would not only help with the so-called “psychological effects,” but possibly cut back on the “zig-zag” double parkers. Maybe now they’d stick to one side of the street at least?

What do you think of the new bike lanes?

6/28/2008 Update:

This update got lost in the sauce last week.

From Juan Melli:
“I scanned in the bike plan that was proposed tonight by Ian Sacs, who did this as a volunteer. I also wrote up a short post with some information describing the types of lanes used and why they were chosen.”

http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/hoboken/blog/2008/06/25/hoboken-bicycle-plan-proposal/

6/25/2008 Update:

FYI, the meeting is today at the Multi-Service Center. Oh, you also might want to check out this bike advocacy group “Bike Hoboken.”

www.bikehoboken.com

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6/18/2008:

Many residents have suggested that putting painted bike paths on our roadways would not only increase safety for bicyclists, but for drivers and pedestrians as well.

If you’re interesting in hearing more about it, be sure to come to the (re-scheduled) meeting next Wednesday, June 25th.

What do you think of this initiative?

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Bike paths are a good idea

“Hi Hoboken411,
I just wanted to pass this information along in case you wish to post it so that we can possibly generate greater community support for this initiative. Personally, I had no idea that there was a bike path planning meeting in Hoboken or that bike lanes were under consideration. I have excerpted this information from an email that I received from a bike group to which I belong (BTCNJ):”

The Hoboken bike path planning meeting was rescheduled for Wednesday, June 25th at 7:00pm at Hoboken City Hall.

To answer questions about the plan, the whole idea for bike lanes in Hoboken stemmed from excessively wide streets that encouraged speeding. To reduce lane widths and thus vehicle speeds, we are proposing a network of class II and III bicycle lanes crisscrossing the city of Hoboken. The public has not been shown a precise map of where these might go, but we have some ideas from both elected officials and the bicycle community in Hoboken. The city has its own striping equipment, so the cost of doing this would be pretty minimal, and there appears to be support from both the public and elected officials. Based on observations, there is already significant recreational, commuter, and delivery bicycle use in Hoboken. The primary objectives for the meeting on June 25th will be:

  1. Address questions and concerns about installing bicycle lanes and bicycle facilities
  2. Listen to community ideas about which streets might best be suited for bicycle lanes
  3. Hear community ideas for other bicycle improvements (Bicycle Parking, driver education, signage, etc.)
  4. Start wheels turning for a future Bike Master Plan

Would you support this idea?

287 Responses

  1. Reilly49 says:

    Good idea in theory but lets be honest…this will not work. It will give bikers a false sense of security as people continue to blow through stops signs and double park. I am sure Biggie’s clientele who have been loyal to the establishment for 50 years will gladly park across the street. Those guys love all the change coming to Hoboken.

    Four workers came and installed a humongous ugly BIKE LANE sign in front of my apartment right smack in the middle of the sidewalk. It looks like shit and it blocks the drivers door from the parking spot next to it. There is a telephone pole 10 feet away but it would make to much sense to put it there.

    Four workers at $17/hour= $68
    Cost per hour while three workers watch one guy work = $51
    One huge street sign = $400
    Bike lane in Hoboken= Pointless

    Now please excuse me while I go draft up a proposal to build a kite flying park next to the power lines on 2nd and Jackson.

  2. yellowsubmarine says:

    Shut up.

  3. 9 says:

    I just drove up Madison from Newark to Shop Rite. There were only two blocks of the 10 that DIDN’T have double-parked cars in the bike lane. Unreal. If I were on my bike, I’d have stayed on the right side of the street (the bike lane is on the left), because it would have been a hell of a lot safer.

  4. drdrool says:

    I run down Madison 5 days a week on the first leg of my jogging loop. I have seen a grand total of one person on this bike path since it was painted. Why is that? Well, biggies had 5 cars parked in front of it on the painted lines and one on the other side. There was 19 car parked on this Madison bike lane yesterday afternoon. This is classic Hoboken nonsense. The people in charge of this suck out loud!!!!

  5. dirtyjerz says:

    I used the bike lane on Saturday for the first time. While initially it felt nice that I wouldn’t have to worry about cars, that soon faded once I hit Biggies. At least 3 of the cars parked outside were there for 3 hrs. How does one get away with this?

    And has anyone noticed that the lines are horribly drawn? It looks like a drunk person was driving the truck that draws them onto the pavement.

    • andynnj says:

      Not drunk, just swerving around the double-parked cars.

      In response to dirtyjerz who said:

      I used the bike lane on Saturday for the first time. While initially it felt nice that I wouldn’t have to worry about cars, that soon faded once I hit Biggies. At least 3 of the cars parked outside were there for 3 hrs. How does one get away with this?

      And has anyone noticed that the lines are horribly drawn? It looks like a drunk person was driving the truck that draws them onto the pavement.

  6. UrbanRose says:

    Bike lanes!!! People will just double park on the opposite side of the street. Church Towers, Post office and Dom’s Bread it’s like a maze getting through there.

  7. db803 says:

    Wouldn’t it make more sense to use the bike lanes as parking, and the space against the sidewalk for the bike lane? That’s how NYC does it. Then there’d be no more double parking. It would narrow the street and cars would also go slower.

  8. Biffy B For Mayor says:

    I mean, yes, they are nice and do keep both rider and driver aware — but taking into consideration the width of the streets in Hoboken and the huge parking problem — one can not logically complain if someone parks in these lanes.

    • strand tramp says:

      did you happen to note that the range rover is double parked in front of an empty parking space? hmmm now i wonder what building that is in the picture that the driver would be so lazy as to not even pull in to the spot…and not expect he would get a ticket? nice car eh? those shiney new range rovers go for up to $80k now. can anyone tell what building that is?

      In response to Biffy B For Mayor who said:

      I mean, yes, they are nice and do keep both rider and driver aware — but taking into consideration the width of the streets in Hoboken and the huge parking problem — one can not logically complain if someone parks in these lanes.

      • chacha17 says:

        let’s see in front of CT …my guess there is probably also a shiny shield in the front windsheild as a big “F U” to anyone who doesn’t like the parking job

        In response to strand tramp who said:

        did you happen to note that the range rover is double parked in front of an empty parking space? hmmm now i wonder what building that is in the picture that the driver would be so lazy as to not even pull in to the spot…and not expect he would get a ticket? nice car eh? those shiney new range rovers go for up to $80k now. can anyone tell what building that is?

      • sullyx says:

        as a matter of fact there is a shiney hoboken fireman shield in both the front and back windows, I got a nice picture of this double parker on May 17th.

        In response to chacha17 who said:

        let’s see in front of CT …my guess there is probably also a shiny shield in the front windsheild as a big “F U” to anyone who doesn’t like the parking job

      • chacha17 says:

        I guess the real surprise is that the car isn’t blocking the hydrant

        In response to sullyx who said:

        as a matter of fact there is a shiney hoboken fireman shield in both the front and back windows, I got a nice picture of this double parker on May 17th.

      • Karl Hungus says:

        Range rovers are made by chevy now? OMG someone double parked lets all cry about it as I’m sure no one here would ever think of committing such a heinous act!

        In response to strand tramp who said:

        did you happen to note that the range rover is double parked in front of an empty parking space? hmmm now i wonder what building that is in the picture that the driver would be so lazy as to not even pull in to the spot…and not expect he would get a ticket? nice car eh? those shiney new range rovers go for up to $80k now. can anyone tell what building that is?

    • Watchmaker says:

      Complain to your future mayor, Dawn Zimmer: those bike lanes are her only achievement in 2 years in office.

      What good is a good idea, if nobody follows up with enforcement.

      If this is how Zimmer is going to run this town, then I’d say bring back the mobsters.

      In response to Biffy B For Mayor who said:

      I mean, yes, they are nice and do keep both rider and driver aware — but taking into consideration the width of the streets in Hoboken and the huge parking problem — one can not logically complain if someone parks in these lanes.

      • jcasteli says:

        I did complain to Dawn via email on April 17th asking her how she plans to enforce the parking over the bike lanes especially at Biggies. She never responded and I am a 4th ward resident.

        In response to Watchmaker who said:

        Complain to your future mayor, Dawn Zimmer: those bike lanes are her only achievement in 2 years in office.

        What good is a good idea, if nobody follows up with enforcement.

        If this is how Zimmer is going to run this town, then I’d say bring back the mobsters.

      • AndThenOneDay says:

        “Asking her how she plans to enforce…” Kidding right? You see traffic enforcement as the council’s job?

        In response to jcasteli who said:

        I did complain to Dawn via email on April 17th asking her how she plans to enforce the parking over the bike lanes especially at Biggies. She never responded and I am a 4th ward resident.

  9. KrisCross says:

    does anyone know where to rent a bike in the area? i know that hobiken at symposia you used to, but not anymore?

  10. mcspacebar says:

    I have seen this car parked there before.
    RIGHT THERE.
    it belongs to some local holier than thou schmuck.
    one of Hoboken’s “untouchables” I guess.
    maybe a flat tire or 4 would give a hint?
    do it the Teamster way.
    Stick a knife in the sidewall, then pull up sharply with both hands to leave a large unrepairable gash in the tire.
    I hope he enjoys his PILOT.

  11. homeworld says:

    This guy needs to get one of those “You Parked like an A-Hole” fake tickets.

    • sullyx says:

      better yet homeworld, maybe “you parked like an a-hole” sticker to put right in the middle of their windshield!

      In response to homeworld who said:

      This guy needs to get one of those “You Parked like an A-Hole” fake tickets.

  12. PJIII says:

    Dawn had the bike lanes painted a month before the election. no election would have meant no bike lanes.

  13. potatochip says:

    A great concept but there are too many animals in this town who have no regard. It’s a joke seeing all the double parkers in the bike lanes.

    It won’t last unfortunately.

    • AndThenOneDay says:

      It happens in the green bike lanes in NYC too. It’s a work in progress (I hope). First you paint the lanes, then you see what happens without enforcement. And then you make public warnings about enforcement. And then you move to enforcement.

      For myself, I actually feel a trifle safer in Manhattan. Blind car door opening in narrow streets and just the lack of a cycling culture (where people give a rat’s @ss about cyclists) are difficult dangers to surmount.

      A study of double parking on Madison around Biggies might be worthwhile. License plates, frequency, duration. Maybe I should do it myself.

      In response to potatochip who said:

      A great concept but there are too many animals in this town who have no regard. It’s a joke seeing all the double parkers in the bike lanes.

      It won’t last unfortunately.

  14. homeworld says:

    Google Maps now allows for directions by bicycle. Ironically, it doesn’t tell you to take the bike lanes in Hoboken, though.

    voices.washingtonpost.com/fasterfor...google_adds_bicycle_directions.html

  15. MidnightRacer says:

    I Am the Cheese

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