Parking stickers: Failed inspections

7/11/2008 Update:

Whoops!

Looks like Hoboken411 gets action once again!

Now, the city website has a “Notice to all Hoboken residents”:

“City of Hoboken residents that own a Hoboken Residential Parking permit have been requested by the New Jersey Motor Vehicles Commission (NJMVC) to remove their Permit Decal from the front of their windshield to the rear of their vehicles to balance the many important issues involving the public at large. “

Maybe if they had listened to people who raised the red flag about this in the first place when John Corea introduced these oversized RFID decals Hoboken’s motoring pubic wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place!

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READ THE ORIGINAL JUNE 2008 ARTICLE AFTER THE JUMP…

6/6/2008:

I’m no lawyer, but it seems as if Hoboken’s own city ordinance dictating where you should place your residential parking sticker is in violation of a NJ State Statute. Several Hoboken411 readers have sent in the same complaint.

Failed inspection because of Hoboken sticker

hoboken-resident-parking-sticker-failed-inspection.jpg“Took my car to Secaucus this morning for inspection (I was a month overdue – whoops). My car failed, for one reason – because of my Hoboken parking sticker on the front windshield. When the inspector guy told me about it, I was dumbfounded – I’ve never had an issue with the sticker before, but suddenly it’s causing me to fail? He claimed “you have to move it, you can’t have it there anymore”, as in, there was some change in the law (or enforcement) regarding this since it was inspected last.

I just got off the phone with the Hoboken Parking Authority and they said that not only did this catch them by surprise, but that I was the third person to call this morning (by 10:30 AM) about it. She said that they’re looking into it (the woman on the phone was very helpful) and that they talked to someone else at the inspection station who said that they personally would not have failed the vehicle because of the windshield parking sticker. She also said that Hoboken checked out the parking sticker placement three years ago to verify that it was legal.

So what’s the deal? Did the state suddenly change the rules? Or is there just one vindictive inspector at Secaucus (mine was name Damian) who woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning and decided to be extra-stringent? (I was furious when he said it failed- now I have to waste another morning going out there.)”

The Law

For one, here’s Hoboken’s ordinance on where the sticker should be placed:
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However, here is the NJ Statute that says that’s a no-no:
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If I get a chance, I’ll stop down to city hall and ask why they didn’t realize this, and if it’s “OK” to place the RFID resident sticker in the REAR windshield. Otherwise, just keep in mind that if you go to inspection, you might want to remove this sticker ahead of time, and re-apply once inspection is completed. After all, it’s only once every two years.

Hoboken Legal Beagle says:

Hoboken legal beagleOh, and in a bonus “Hoboken Legal Beagle” entry, here is what the scruffy flying dog had to say about it:

“I have no idea about parking sticker location law but like I often say to those troubled by the most minor inconveniences in life (think Iraq, Darfur, etc) “that’s life in the big city” And I must comment on your “Fury”, did your blood pressure rise, did you stamp your feet, did you cry for or mommy to make it all better. Leave Damian alone, I am sure he was only doing his job, did you feel all good inside calling him out. Hoboken said it checked the law three years ago, the DMV said the law was changed recently so what about the logical thought that Damian was just enforcing a new law instead of some ridiculous comment about a vindictive inspector, why vindictive? Because he had to work on Saturday and deal with ignorant people like you, or did you think him vindictive because as a working man he is seeking revenge on those non Saturday workers. I could go on but I don’t want you to become all furious and vindictive and stuff.”

92 Responses

  1. Stabone130 says:

    Can someone please explain this wording to me — who wrote this sentence? It doesn’t make sense:

    “remove their Permit Decal from the front of their windshield to the rear of their vehicles to balance the many important issues involving the public at large.”

    —- What does moving a decal have to do with BALANCING THE MANY IMPORTANT ISSUES INVOLVING THE PUBLIC AT LARGE

  2. CharlieAParker says:

    [quote comment=”100341″]Can someone please explain this wording to me — who wrote this sentence? It doesn’t make sense:

    “remove their Permit Decal from the front of their windshield to the rear of their vehicles to balance the many important issues involving the public at large.”

    —- What does moving a decal have to do with BALANCING THE MANY IMPORTANT ISSUES INVOLVING THE PUBLIC AT LARGE[/quote]

    No idea but it makes me LOL every time I read it.

  3. plaintruthiness says:

    And despite repeated requests, the Mayor’s official PR website still hasn’t clarified WHERE on the rear of their vehicle. It’s probably a budget revenue line item: Increase parking ticket revenue by not telling the citizens exactly where to stick their stickers, then ticket them for putting it in the wrong place.

    Ya gotta hand it to him for thinking outside the box! Guess where on the rear I want to tell him to stick those stickers. :mrgreen:

  4. bmoc04 says:

    [quote comment=”100373″]And despite repeated requests, the Mayor’s official PR website still hasn’t clarified WHERE on the rear of their vehicle. It’s probably a budget revenue line item: Increase parking ticket revenue by not telling the citizens exactly where to stick their stickers, then ticket them for putting it in the wrong place.

    Ya gotta hand it to him for thinking outside the box! Guess where on the rear I want to tell him to stick those stickers. :mrgreen:[/quote]
    Are you referring to Mayor McCheese’s myspace page or the Hoboken city site? Oh wait, aren’t they the same? :mrgreen:

  5. SweetPea says:

    [quote comment=”100373″]And despite repeated requests, the Mayor’s official PR website still hasn’t clarified WHERE on the rear of their vehicle. It’s probably a budget revenue line item: Increase parking ticket revenue by not telling the citizens exactly where to stick their stickers, then ticket them for putting it in the wrong place.

    Ya gotta hand it to him for thinking outside the box! Guess where on the rear I want to tell him to stick those stickers. :mrgreen:[/quote]
    Just wondering. Has anyone tried to remove the sticker from their front windshield? Is it even possible without ripping it to shreds? I passed inspection last year with it in place but wonder what will happen next year.

  6. jam981 says:

    [quote comment=”100387″][quote comment=”100373″][/quote]
    Just wondering. Has anyone tried to remove the sticker from their front windshield? Is it even possible without ripping it to shreds? I passed inspection last year with it in place but wonder what will happen next year.[/quote]

    Since I just failed, I have 45 days to re-inspect. I’ll be peeling off my parking permit before I head up there next time. I’ll let you know what happens…

  7. hoboken411 says:

    RE: rear windshield.

    I don’t think putting it on your rear windshield is a good idea, either. Many cars have dark tinted windows (which is legal for the rear) and may cause you to get a ticket if the HPA officer doesn’t see the decal.

  8. beamrider9 says:

    [quote comment=”100459″]Since I just failed, I have 45 days to re-inspect. I’ll be peeling off my parking permit before I head up there next time. I’ll let you know what happens…[/quote]

    That’s what I did, and what everyone’s been doing since they started enforcing this in the spring. As long as you’re careful peeling off the sticker, it works fine.

  9. hobojoe says:

    [quote comment=”100471″]RE: rear windshield.

    I don’t think putting it on your rear windshield is a good idea, either. Many cars have dark tinted windows (which is legal for the rear) and may cause you to get a ticket if the HPA officer doesn’t see the decal.[/quote]

    But didn’t we just spend a copious amount of money on an “electronic surveillance and citizen tracking” van which is supposed to do the job for them? The van doesn’t need to see the decal.

  10. rocklobster says:

    SInce I don’t check the hoboken official website I was not aware of the sticker repositioning issue and my car also failed inspection at Secaucus. Apparently the first inspector who takes your id papers is supposed to tell you to remove it or else your car will fail-the one I had didn’t bother to tell me, and just sent the car through the inspection. The second inspector (the one who prints out your papers at the end) was luckily much kinder than the first, and told me to just take the sticker off and drive around to reinspection so that it would pass. The reinspection guy was also very nice, and said that it had been happening quite a lot since May when the law was changed, and that the inspectors were supposed to inform you prior to doing the inspection. (btw I don’t know how the Hoboken sticker is an “obstruction”, but the inspection sticker is not). Anyway-just wanted to warn those of you whose cars are coming up for inspection-move those stickers or at least one disgruntled jerkoff at the Secaucus inspection station is going to gleefully send you over to reinspection to waste more of your life and the time of his fellow inspectors. As I drove home I noticed that half the cars in town had the sticker in front-half had it in the back-so some people are in for a big surprise.

  11. HOB424 says:

    When they send the renewal notices out in the beginning of the year, it was stated that the sticker should be moved to the back. did you read the letter?

    • rocklobster says:

      I didn’t get a letter about the stickers-and judging from the cars in town and the testimony of the DMV inspectors-neither did many other people.

      In response to HOB424 who said:

      When they send the renewal notices out in the beginning of the year, it was stated that the sticker should be moved to the back. did you read the letter?

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