Light Rail & Hoboken Real Estate

6/3/2008:

One Hoboken411 reader sent in this link from the NY Times, and was wondering why they labeled the Light Rail in the NW area of town “smart development.”

  • Do you ride the Light Rail?
  • Do you feel it’s had a positive impact for the city of Hoboken? Either for residents, or local business?
  • What, if any, are the downsides of having this system in our city?

Hoboken Light Rail NJ Transit

While I agree that it has helped areas like Union City (cheaper property costs), I’m not 100% sure what the overall impact in Hoboken has been.

Some excerpts from the article:

– “Along its route, the system has increased the mass transit ridership, improved the environment, spurred creation of businesses, bolstered property values and tax revenues, opened up employment opportunities and engendered a “fresh, emerging sense of place,”

– “New Jersey’s light-rail line was becoming a “national showcase” for other regions looking to spur transit-oriented development and “smart growth.””

– “Jamie Lefrak expressed amazement that the light rail was ever built. “We established a route through what were essentially fallow areas,” he said, using a more genteel term for stretches that Mr. Lefrak described as “places most people would not want to go.””

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39 Comments on "Light Rail & Hoboken Real Estate"

hobogoose
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hobogoose

[quote comment=”86201″][quote comment=”86105″]I live by the 8th….er 9th st. stop. Use it every day to commute to the PATH and into the city – if you’ve rode the light rail in the past year you know that every morning the 9th st. stop is full of professional commuters – it has definitely helped the development in this part of town (I think that’s a good thing, of course some would beg to differ.)

However, it would be nice if the construction workers at Metrostop would be so kind as to open the 9th st. side of the station. They’ve managed to plant trees all over the place and finish the constuction on the patio/sidewalk everywhere else around the property, yet they can’t seem to get the 9th street entrance done. Very annoying, but at least they’ll have to open it soon.[/quote]

They’ll have to open it soon? My money says its never opening again. Don’t think it was ever meant to really be the 9th st station. Notice how all the electronic sings face the 8th stattion side? Notice how they never really built a permanent 9th st entrance anyway- that it was always a lowest bidder rentable handicapped ramp with 3 foot wide stairwell?[/quote]
Bin, let me know what you’d like to wager, I love free money. Why don’t you walk by the station, take a look at the current construction on the 9th st entrance, and then reconsider your dumb statement.

hobogoose
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hobogoose
[quote comment=”86198″][quote comment=”86105″]I live by the 8th….er 9th st. stop. Use it every day to commute to the PATH and into the city – if you’ve rode the light rail in the past year you know that every morning the 9th st. stop is full of professional commuters – it has definitely helped the development in this part of town (I think that’s a good thing, of course some would beg to differ.) However, it would be nice if the construction workers at Metrostop would be so kind as to open the 9th st. side of the station. They’ve managed to plant trees all over the place and finish the constuction on the patio/sidewalk everywhere else around the property, yet they can’t seem to get the 9th street entrance done. Very annoying, but at least they’ll have to open it soon.[/quote] mind if i ask you what your total commute is into the city? never mind the other end – i mean apt to manhattan. the thought of taking a train to the path i can’t wrap my head around – but if it is more convenient than i realize i would like to know options – thanks[/quote] To WTC it’s about 30 min until you are out of the station. To 33rd St. about 35 min. Then add in subway and walking to get to total time. For me, approx 45 min on average. I’ve taken the ferry, it’s about the same total time but more expensive. The bus… Read more »
thebinatwork2
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[quote comment=”86283″]I love the light rail – and was a main reason why I bought a place within walking distance to it. People don’t realize how convenient it really is. It’s so easy and very quick. I use it to get to and from the PATH twice a day and it takes 5 minutes to get there. And it’s ALWAYS clean. Which you hardly see on public transportation.

My only gripe would be the outdated ticket machines. So slow and painful.[/quote]

Excepting the 8th st station, the worse thing about the light rail isn’t the ticket machine for those of us with monthly passes done via flexspending….but rather that third world, banana republic “system” whereby ticket checks are done by halting trains in mid rush hour while they physically check everyone’s papers. Something about that process gives me the creeps. Its wrong on so many levels. You are literally under arrest while they do that. Can’t get out of the train and walk away…you are captive by those monkies.

starfish
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starfish

I love the light rail – and was a main reason why I bought a place within walking distance to it. People don’t realize how convenient it really is. It’s so easy and very quick. I use it to get to and from the PATH twice a day and it takes 5 minutes to get there. And it’s ALWAYS clean. Which you hardly see on public transportation.

My only gripe would be the outdated ticket machines. So slow and painful.

monk
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monk

[quote comment=”86247″][quote comment=”86243″]A 14th Street stop somewhere near the Willow Ave Bridge would be a good catalyst for redeveloping that area, and for access to the proposed theater.[/quote]

That’ll never happen. It makes way too much sense.[/quote]

Not necessarily true. I asked about this at a community input meeting about the Western Edge or NW Dvp and they said it is being considered. According to the consultant, at the time there had been no need to put in a 14th street stop due little residential property occupying the area.

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