Comments on: Stevens Cooperative School http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109 Making our community stronger with technology Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:38:49 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: mooshu http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109/comment-page-2#comment-188104 mooshu Sat, 06 Mar 2010 03:53:58 +0000 http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109#comment-188104 DPerez, you're not serious, are you? Why are you resurrecting an old thread? Put your hormones away. Journey, back then, for a full school year, we paid $2,000 per year for three years. When I graduated, tuition had increased by $100, so we paid $2,100 for senior year. I say "we" because I had a job and helped pay for school. That was over ten years ago. But still. Tuition has only gone up to $6,000 and change, not a whopping increase at all. And it's a damn good school. They have a foreign exchange program that I only wish we had back then. Compare that to what greedy schools charge now. Speaking of which, there's some protesting going on regarding tuition costs. I think it only pertains to certain colleges. At least for now. That's what happens when people at the top become greedy a-holes. We'll be seeing more of this rebellious stuff... DPerez, you’re not serious, are you? Why are you resurrecting an old thread? Put your hormones away.

Journey, back then, for a full school year, we paid $2,000 per year for three years. When I graduated, tuition had increased by $100, so we paid $2,100 for senior year. I say “we” because I had a job and helped pay for school.

That was over ten years ago. But still. Tuition has only gone up to $6,000 and change, not a whopping increase at all. And it’s a damn good school. They have a foreign exchange program that I only wish we had back then.

Compare that to what greedy schools charge now.

Speaking of which, there’s some protesting going on regarding tuition costs. I think it only pertains to certain colleges. At least for now. That’s what happens when people at the top become greedy a-holes. We’ll be seeing more of this rebellious stuff…

]]> By: Journey http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109/comment-page-2#comment-188099 Journey Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:39:04 +0000 http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109#comment-188099 That was then, how much does that same school cost today?<!--begin reply--> <span class="in_response_to">In response to mooshu who said:</span> <div class="replied_to_style">I can't feel sorry for you because you're not the only family walking around with financial setbacks. There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family. If you're so proud that you opt to live in a town you can barely afford, I can't feel sorry for you. I can't feel sorry because my parents struggled as well, and unless they were out of their gourds, they'd have never lived in a pricey town. I grew up in an inner-city, also minutes from Manhattan. I attended public schools until I entered high school because otherwise I'd have been sent to a nasty school within our radius. Private high schools were far, far, far, far cheaper than our preschools, so I attended one. Think: just under 20% OF what local, private institutions charge to play with blocks with 3-year-olds. That's what it cost before financial aid options. I turned out just fine.</div><!--end reply--> That was then, how much does that same school cost today?

In response to mooshu who said:

I can’t feel sorry for you because you’re not the only family walking around with financial setbacks.

There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family. If you’re so proud that you opt to live in a town you can barely afford, I can’t feel sorry for you. I can’t feel sorry because my parents struggled as well, and unless they were out of their gourds, they’d have never lived in a pricey town.

I grew up in an inner-city, also minutes from Manhattan. I attended public schools until I entered high school because otherwise I’d have been sent to a nasty school within our radius. Private high schools were far, far, far, far cheaper than our preschools, so I attended one. Think: just under 20% OF what local, private institutions charge to play with blocks with 3-year-olds. That’s what it cost before financial aid options.

I turned out just fine.

]]> By: Dperez http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109/comment-page-2#comment-188094 Dperez Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:11:38 +0000 http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109#comment-188094 What ever Mooshu, get a life!<!--begin reply--> <span class="in_response_to">In response to mooshu who said:</span> <div class="replied_to_style">I can't feel sorry for you because you're not the only family walking around with financial setbacks. There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family. If you're so proud that you opt to live in a town you can barely afford, I can't feel sorry for you. I can't feel sorry because my parents struggled as well, and unless they were out of their gourds, they'd have never lived in a pricey town. I grew up in an inner-city, also minutes from Manhattan. I attended public schools until I entered high school because otherwise I'd have been sent to a nasty school within our radius. Private high schools were far, far, far, far cheaper than our preschools, so I attended one. Think: just under 20% OF what local, private institutions charge to play with blocks with 3-year-olds. That's what it cost before financial aid options. I turned out just fine.</div><!--end reply--> What ever Mooshu, get a life!

In response to mooshu who said:

I can’t feel sorry for you because you’re not the only family walking around with financial setbacks.

There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family. If you’re so proud that you opt to live in a town you can barely afford, I can’t feel sorry for you. I can’t feel sorry because my parents struggled as well, and unless they were out of their gourds, they’d have never lived in a pricey town.

I grew up in an inner-city, also minutes from Manhattan. I attended public schools until I entered high school because otherwise I’d have been sent to a nasty school within our radius. Private high schools were far, far, far, far cheaper than our preschools, so I attended one. Think: just under 20% OF what local, private institutions charge to play with blocks with 3-year-olds. That’s what it cost before financial aid options.

I turned out just fine.

]]> By: Dperez http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109/comment-page-2#comment-188093 Dperez Sat, 06 Mar 2010 01:07:16 +0000 http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109#comment-188093 Animal lover, Get your head out of your a$$ and wake up! What I am saying is not based on a Koolaid mentality, it is based on fact . I am a teacher and when I get kindergarten students with no prior school experience, THEY DO STRUGGLE! Most end up repeating either kindergarten or first grade. As for 25 years ago... I was there, it was easier for people to get by on one income. You are probably just some "20 year old hippy wanna be" that wouldn't understand. By the way, DON'T YOU FU*&ING JUDGE ME ON HOW I RAISE MY CHILD, B!#CH! You don't know me. I have an education, I am providing my child with an education and a STABLE home environment. My child is beautiful, well adjusted, and very intelligent, unlike yourself.<!--begin reply--> <span class="in_response_to">In response to animal_lover who said:</span> <div class="replied_to_style">The reality to be likely screwed in kintegarten? whose reality? Likely academically and socially behind? "This is just the way it is". Wow sounds like the Koolaid mentality and get that last seat on the bus that drives this crazy wanna be bubble economy. Very sad mentality at that. And certaainly throwing in the argument " not like 25 years ago" negates any possibility of giving live example of successes. How frightful to live in your mind. Your child is being raised on fear.</div><!--end reply--> Animal lover,
Get your head out of your a$$ and wake up! What I am saying is not based on a Koolaid mentality, it is based on fact . I am a teacher and when I get kindergarten students with no prior school experience, THEY DO STRUGGLE! Most end up repeating either kindergarten or first grade. As for 25 years ago… I was there, it was easier for people to get by on one income. You are probably just some “20 year old hippy wanna be” that wouldn’t understand. By the way, DON’T YOU FU*&ING JUDGE ME ON HOW I RAISE MY CHILD, B!#CH! You don’t know me. I have an education, I am providing my child with an education and a STABLE home environment. My child is beautiful, well adjusted, and very intelligent, unlike yourself.

In response to animal_lover who said:

The reality to be likely screwed in kintegarten? whose reality?
Likely academically and socially behind? “This is just the way it is”. Wow sounds like the Koolaid mentality and get that last seat on the bus that drives this crazy wanna be bubble economy. Very sad mentality at that. And certaainly throwing in the argument ” not like 25 years ago” negates any possibility of giving live example of successes. How frightful to live in your mind. Your child is being raised on fear.

]]> By: mooshu http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109/comment-page-2#comment-184417 mooshu Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:39:50 +0000 http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109#comment-184417 Spoken like a real baby. Well, since you insist, I'd much rather never be a parent than to join the ridiculously clueless, exclusive parenting club you represent if I were offered one of the two choices. I've stated the obvious, I wasn't trying to be your guru. Parenting is a tremendous, constant commitment, and I can't deny the cluster that makes things more and more difficult because they're "busy" or "fabulous" (really, entitled) to become involved in the lives of their children. At this point, I'm very happy doing what I do. Among other things, I work with families I'm comfortable with, who live a balanced lifestyle, and who treat me well. But, really, don't worry about what I do for a living. Not that your arrogant self cares, but I grew up very quickly, in a kind of reality you'd probably pee your pants in. So you can pretty much stick your interpretation of my grip on reality up your... What matters now is that I feel and am successful. Happy, too. How's that for ya'?<!--begin reply--> <span class="in_response_to">In response to emarche who said:</span> <div class="replied_to_style">"There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family." Wow. What an incredible insight. Have you ever thought about writing a book? Or lecturing? Or - dare I dream - becoming a parent? Nah, you wouldn't do that. Maybe you can't do that. If so: I'm sorry. Perhaps that's why you're so bitter about other parents? It's ok. As you love to remind us, you do your part helping out with other people's kids. But as far as the whole you 'turned out just fine' thing goes? No, you turned out to be a sanctimonious ass with an at-best-tenuous grip on reality.</div><!--end reply--> Spoken like a real baby. Well, since you insist, I’d much rather never be a parent than to join the ridiculously clueless, exclusive parenting club you represent if I were offered one of the two choices.

I’ve stated the obvious, I wasn’t trying to be your guru. Parenting is a tremendous, constant commitment, and I can’t deny the cluster that makes things more and more difficult because they’re “busy” or “fabulous” (really, entitled) to become involved in the lives of their children.

At this point, I’m very happy doing what I do. Among other things, I work with families I’m comfortable with, who live a balanced lifestyle, and who treat me well. But, really, don’t worry about what I do for a living. Not that your arrogant self cares, but I grew up very quickly, in a kind of reality you’d probably pee your pants in. So you can pretty much stick your interpretation of my grip on reality up your…

What matters now is that I feel and am successful. Happy, too. How’s that for ya’?

In response to emarche who said:

“There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family.”

Wow. What an incredible insight. Have you ever thought about writing a book? Or lecturing? Or – dare I dream – becoming a parent? Nah, you wouldn’t do that. Maybe you can’t do that. If so: I’m sorry. Perhaps that’s why you’re so bitter about other parents? It’s ok. As you love to remind us, you do your part helping out with other people’s kids.

But as far as the whole you ‘turned out just fine’ thing goes? No, you turned out to be a sanctimonious ass with an at-best-tenuous grip on reality.

]]> By: plywood http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109/comment-page-2#comment-184396 plywood Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:58:13 +0000 http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109#comment-184396 Might I suggest a course in anger management.<!--begin reply--> <span class="in_response_to">In response to Dperez who said:</span> <div class="replied_to_style">Hey folks, You don't need to spend obscene amounts of money for your toddler to go to daycare/school. Let me emphasize that this school is BU#$%IT. Milesquare is a much better program than Stevens (and costs much less as well). My daughter has thrived at Milesquare. There is nothing wrong with sending your child to daycare/pre-school. The reality is that if you don't send your kid to at least pre-school, they are pretty much screwed in kindergarten. They will likely be both academically and socially behind children who had prior schooling. It's not like 25 years ago, where it didn't much matter. Times have changed. That is just the way it is. Please note that I am not bashing people who choose to keep their children home, that's your thing. I just choose not to do that.</div><!--end reply--> Might I suggest a course in anger management.

In response to Dperez who said:

Hey folks,
You don’t need to spend obscene amounts of money for your toddler to go to daycare/school. Let me emphasize that this school is BU#$%IT. Milesquare is a much better program than Stevens (and costs much less as well). My daughter has thrived at Milesquare. There is nothing wrong with sending your child to daycare/pre-school. The reality is that if you don’t send your kid to at least pre-school, they are pretty much screwed in kindergarten. They will likely be both academically and socially behind children who had prior schooling. It’s not like 25 years ago, where it didn’t much matter. Times have changed. That is just the way it is. Please note that I am not bashing people who choose to keep their children home, that’s your thing. I just choose not to do that.

]]> By: emarche http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109/comment-page-2#comment-184391 emarche Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:37:19 +0000 http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109#comment-184391 "There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family." Wow. What an incredible insight. Have you ever thought about writing a book? Or lecturing? Or - dare I dream - becoming a parent? Nah, you wouldn't do that. Maybe you can't do that. If so: I'm sorry. Perhaps that's why you're so bitter about other parents? It's ok. As you love to remind us, you do your part helping out with other people's kids. But as far as the whole you 'turned out just fine' thing goes? No, you turned out to be a sanctimonious ass with an at-best-tenuous grip on reality. “There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family.”

Wow. What an incredible insight. Have you ever thought about writing a book? Or lecturing? Or – dare I dream – becoming a parent? Nah, you wouldn’t do that. Maybe you can’t do that. If so: I’m sorry. Perhaps that’s why you’re so bitter about other parents? It’s ok. As you love to remind us, you do your part helping out with other people’s kids.

But as far as the whole you ‘turned out just fine’ thing goes? No, you turned out to be a sanctimonious ass with an at-best-tenuous grip on reality.

]]> By: mooshu http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109/comment-page-2#comment-184367 mooshu Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:27:00 +0000 http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109#comment-184367 I can't feel sorry for you because you're not the only family walking around with financial setbacks. There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family. If you're so proud that you opt to live in a town you can barely afford, I can't feel sorry for you. I can't feel sorry because my parents struggled as well, and unless they were out of their gourds, they'd have never lived in a pricey town. I grew up in an inner-city, also minutes from Manhattan. I attended public schools until I entered high school because otherwise I'd have been sent to a nasty school within our radius. Private high schools were far, far, far, far cheaper than our preschools, so I attended one. Think: just under 20% OF what local, private institutions charge to play with blocks with 3-year-olds. That's what it cost before financial aid options. I turned out just fine.<!--begin reply--> <span class="in_response_to">In response to Dperez who said:</span> <div class="replied_to_style">Mooshu, Your response is a bit harsh. There are some parents that can barely make ends meet and have no choice but to put their children in child care for an extended period of time. I'm sure the parents don't like to do it, but some people have limited options. By the way, I don't know of any facility that allows a child to stay for 12 hours, that's a little off base.</div><!--end reply--> I can’t feel sorry for you because you’re not the only family walking around with financial setbacks.

There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family. If you’re so proud that you opt to live in a town you can barely afford, I can’t feel sorry for you. I can’t feel sorry because my parents struggled as well, and unless they were out of their gourds, they’d have never lived in a pricey town.

I grew up in an inner-city, also minutes from Manhattan. I attended public schools until I entered high school because otherwise I’d have been sent to a nasty school within our radius. Private high schools were far, far, far, far cheaper than our preschools, so I attended one. Think: just under 20% OF what local, private institutions charge to play with blocks with 3-year-olds. That’s what it cost before financial aid options.

I turned out just fine.

In response to Dperez who said:

Mooshu,
Your response is a bit harsh. There are some parents that can barely make ends meet and have no choice but to put their children in child care for an extended period of time. I’m sure the parents don’t like to do it, but some people have limited options. By the way, I don’t know of any facility that allows a child to stay for 12 hours, that’s a little off base.

]]> By: animal_lover http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109/comment-page-2#comment-184361 animal_lover Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:09:38 +0000 http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109#comment-184361 The reality to be likely screwed in kintegarten? whose reality? Likely academically and socially behind? "This is just the way it is". Wow sounds like the Koolaid mentality and get that last seat on the bus that drives this crazy wanna be bubble economy. Very sad mentality at that. And certaainly throwing in the argument " not like 25 years ago" negates any possibility of giving live example of successes. How frightful to live in your mind. Your child is being raised on fear.<!--begin reply--> <span class="in_response_to">In response to Dperez who said:</span> <div class="replied_to_style">Hey folks, You don't need to spend obscene amounts of money for your toddler to go to daycare/school. Let me emphasize that this school is BU#$%IT. Milesquare is a much better program than Stevens (and costs much less as well). My daughter has thrived at Milesquare. There is nothing wrong with sending your child to daycare/pre-school. The reality is that if you don't send your kid to at least pre-school, they are pretty much screwed in kindergarten. They will likely be both academically and socially behind children who had prior schooling. It's not like 25 years ago, where it didn't much matter. Times have changed. That is just the way it is. Please note that I am not bashing people who choose to keep their children home, that's your thing. I just choose not to do that.</div><!--end reply--> The reality to be likely screwed in kintegarten? whose reality?
Likely academically and socially behind? “This is just the way it is”. Wow sounds like the Koolaid mentality and get that last seat on the bus that drives this crazy wanna be bubble economy. Very sad mentality at that. And certaainly throwing in the argument ” not like 25 years ago” negates any possibility of giving live example of successes. How frightful to live in your mind. Your child is being raised on fear.

In response to Dperez who said:

Hey folks,
You don’t need to spend obscene amounts of money for your toddler to go to daycare/school. Let me emphasize that this school is BU#$%IT. Milesquare is a much better program than Stevens (and costs much less as well). My daughter has thrived at Milesquare. There is nothing wrong with sending your child to daycare/pre-school. The reality is that if you don’t send your kid to at least pre-school, they are pretty much screwed in kindergarten. They will likely be both academically and socially behind children who had prior schooling. It’s not like 25 years ago, where it didn’t much matter. Times have changed. That is just the way it is. Please note that I am not bashing people who choose to keep their children home, that’s your thing. I just choose not to do that.

]]> By: Dperez http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109/comment-page-2#comment-184354 Dperez Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:49:35 +0000 http://hoboken411.com/archives/1109#comment-184354 Mooshu, Your response is a bit harsh. There are some parents that can barely make ends meet and have no choice but to put their children in child care for an extended period of time. I'm sure the parents don't like to do it, but some people have limited options. By the way, I don't know of any facility that allows a child to stay for 12 hours, that's a little off base.<!--begin reply--> <span class="in_response_to">In response to mooshu who said:</span> <div class="replied_to_style">And by the way, I am SO sick and eff'n tired of hearing some of you parents grown about parenthood as if it's a thing that *just* happened to you. Face it. It is a choice and it is plain said when you leave your infants and toddlers in daycare for 12 full hours. What do the kids do when they get home at 8:00 PM? Chow down and head to bed? Yep, that's quality parenting right there. Own up to your responsibilities. I know parents who struggle and still manage to survive without sending their two-year-olds to daycare all damn day. It's called being smart with their money.</div><!--end reply--> Mooshu,
Your response is a bit harsh. There are some parents that can barely make ends meet and have no choice but to put their children in child care for an extended period of time. I’m sure the parents don’t like to do it, but some people have limited options. By the way, I don’t know of any facility that allows a child to stay for 12 hours, that’s a little off base.

In response to mooshu who said:

And by the way, I am SO sick and eff’n tired of hearing some of you parents grown about parenthood as if it’s a thing that *just* happened to you. Face it. It is a choice and it is plain said when you leave your infants and toddlers in daycare for 12 full hours. What do the kids do when they get home at 8:00 PM? Chow down and head to bed?

Yep, that’s quality parenting right there.

Own up to your responsibilities. I know parents who struggle and still manage to survive without sending their two-year-olds to daycare all damn day. It’s called being smart with their money.

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