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12/14/2006 Update:
Stevens Cooperative Begins 2 year old program and refines 4 year old program
Stevens Cooperative School in Hoboken has created some exciting enhancements to their Early Childhood program. Beginning in the 2007-2008 school year, Stevens Cooperative School will have a program for 2 year olds in Hoboken. Applicants must turn two by September 1, 2007, and qualified siblings of students enrolled in Stevens will have preference for admission to the program. Prospective families will have their choice of a daily two-and-a-half hour session, at either 9:00 – 11:30 am or 1:00 – 3:30 pm. Applications must be received by March 1, 2007.
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Each class will have a Head teacher with an Assistant teacher and, for the first eight weeks, a second assistant. No more than 12 students will be enrolled in each class. Tuition will be in line with the current Nursery program. Although part of the School, families in the 2s program will not be required to fulfill any cooperative commitments. Children in the 2s program will not be automatically enrolled in the 3s program the following year but are free to apply for ongoing programs. The 2s program will encourage social skills through exploration with developmentally appropriate materials such as blocks, sand, water, paint, clay, paper and math manipulatives. Song and creative movement will be included every day as will outdoor play.
Additionally, Nursery 4s will become a full-day program in the 2007-2008 school year. A developmentally appropriate full day program for these students will ease the transition to Kindergarten and we believe that a full day program will allow the program to be a better choice for some families, as early morning drop off and aftercare will also be offered for those students.
Description – “Founded in 1949, Stevens Cooperative School is a non-sectarian, progressive, independent elemenatary school in addition to being a parent cooperative. The school has two campuses; one in Hoboken and one at Newport in Jersey City.”
Services – Nursery – 8th grade.
Website – www.stevenscoop.org
Address – 301 Garden St, Hoboken, New Jersey ( NJ ) 07030-3873
Telephone – (201) 792-3688, Fax – (201) 792-0862
January 17th 2010 - 16:09:30 |
Mooshu,
First say what you want, but if I think you are blowing smoke up everyone’s skirts, I’ll say so. You insist that your experience working in the field gives you a valid voice in these threads. That what you say has meaning. You are free to believe it. I’d free to not believe it. You keep raising the ante with your past experience. So if this was poker, I call. Show your cards. If the intuitions you worked at were further away from the city, maybe the parents where dealing with an 8 hour work day and 2 hour commutes. Where (geographically) and when is just as relevant to your anecdotal stories as that you worked in the biz.
Back when I was a teen I worked at a Girl Scout camp. We had children there that had been sent away to camp for 8 weeks. So for 8 weeks 24/7 these kids where under my care or one of my co-workers. It happens. We also had kids that were only sent for one week. I personally had a little 6 year old that was sent to camp so unprepared, she wouldn’t even brush her own hair. I told the mother. A week later the child was unexpected back, and was much better prepared. That family was sending their daughter to camp for the experience. I could bounce up and down and yell that my experience at a camp 20 years ago makes me some expert. But that was 20 years ago and my current experience as parent of child in daycare is much more current and thus more relevant.
So here is my current experience. I don’t believe anyone in my child’s class is at day care for 10 hours, much less 12. I can say this because my husband and I do the pickup and drop offs and we can see which children are there. Yes they are open from 7 to 7, but that is because some families drop off at 7, 8, or 9, and pick up at different times too.
I don’t think you know very much about the day cares in town if you say, “There are daycares in town who take infants, beginning at 12 months or sooner, and their hours are 7:00 AM until 7:00 PM. Their directors themselves have told me that a good percentage of babies are dropped off for their entire shift.” Which daycares have you talked to their directors? I would be shocked if any daycare waited until 12 months. Many start at 6 weeks and go till 5 years old. Preschools start at older ages. Did you ask them to define what a shift is? The staff that are at our daughter’s daycare in the morning are not the staff that are there in the evening because they have a shift change.
Lifestyle. I don’t know what lifestyle you assume the parents on this site or this city have chosen. What my husband and I choose was to live close to work, because we didn’t want waste that much time away from our family in a commute. We choose to live where we can walk to everything. No one can legally stop me from driving. The New Jersey State Commission for the Blind and Visually Impaired recommends that I don’t. So I live somewhere so that I can walk my child to school, activities, the doctor, the dentist, everything. The lifestyle I have chosen is one where I can be self-sufficient and independent. What lifestyle do you think I wanted?
You spend time giving your negative opinions of others, but you can’t take it when someone tries to judge you. If you can’t take the heat, maybe you might want to get out of the kitchen.
My real suggestion, stay, interact, post all you want, but treat people the way you want to be treated.
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January 17th 2010 - 17:32:48 |
Journey, have some chamomile tea and call someone in the morning.
In the meantime, I stick with my argument. The fact is that when a childcare provider is spending more time with your kid than you are, they are pretty much a parent. Again, giving birth is not the end-all. Sharing DNA with someone doesn’t not earn you respect.
In response to Journey who said:
First say what you want, but if I think you are blowing smoke up everyone’s skirts, I’ll say so. You insist that your experience working in the field gives you a valid voice in these threads. That what you say has meaning. You are free to believe it. I’d free to not believe it. You keep raising the ante with your past experience. So if this was poker, I call. Show your cards. If the intuitions you worked at were further away from the city, maybe the parents where dealing with an 8 hour work day and 2 hour commutes. Where (geographically) and when is just as relevant to your anecdotal stories as that you worked in the biz.
Back when I was a teen I worked at a Girl Scout camp. We had children there that had been sent away to camp for 8 weeks. So for 8 weeks 24/7 these kids where under my care or one of my co-workers. It happens. We also had kids that were only sent for one week. I personally had a little 6 year old that was sent to camp so unprepared, she wouldn’t even brush her own hair. I told the mother. A week later the child was unexpected back, and was much better prepared. That family was sending their daughter to camp for the experience. I could bounce up and down and yell that my experience at a camp 20 years ago makes me some expert. But that was 20 years ago and my current experience as parent of child in daycare is much more current and thus more relevant.
So here is my current experience. I don’t believe anyone in my child’s class is at day care for 10 hours, much less 12. I can say this because my husband and I do the pickup and drop offs and we can see which children are there. Yes they are open from 7 to 7, but that is because some families drop off at 7, 8, or 9, and pick up at different times too.
I don’t think you know very much about the day cares in town if you say, “There are daycares in town who take infants, beginning at 12 months or sooner, and their hours are 7:00 AM until 7:00 PM. Their directors themselves have told me that a good percentage of babies are dropped off for their entire shift.” Which daycares have you talked to their directors? I would be shocked if any daycare waited until 12 months. Many start at 6 weeks and go till 5 years old. Preschools start at older ages. Did you ask them to define what a shift is? The staff that are at our daughter’s daycare in the morning are not the staff that are there in the evening because they have a shift change.
Lifestyle. I don’t know what lifestyle you assume the parents on this site or this city have chosen. What my husband and I choose was to live close to work, because we didn’t want waste that much time away from our family in a commute. We choose to live where we can walk to everything. No one can legally stop me from driving. The New Jersey State Commission for the Blind and Visually Impaired recommends that I don’t. So I live somewhere so that I can walk my child to school, activities, the doctor, the dentist, everything. The lifestyle I have chosen is one where I can be self-sufficient and independent. What lifestyle do you think I wanted?
You spend time giving your negative opinions of others, but you can’t take it when someone tries to judge you. If you can’t take the heat, maybe you might want to get out of the kitchen.
My real suggestion, stay, interact, post all you want, but treat people the way you want to be treated.
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January 17th 2010 - 19:17:09 |
Go enjoy that patronizing cup of tea. I’m enjoying my child.
In response to mooshu who said:
In the meantime, I stick with my argument. The fact is that when a childcare provider is spending more time with your kid than you are, they are pretty much a parent. Again, giving birth is not the end-all. Sharing DNA with someone doesn’t not earn you respect.
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January 17th 2010 - 19:30:15 |
As far as I know most daycares open at about 6:30 a.m. and close at about the same time. Parents are required to provide a list of family/friends that are allowed to pick up their children in the event of an emergency. There is also a clause in their childcare contract that states habitual offenders can and will be turned over to DYFUS for further investigation.
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January 17th 2010 - 19:59:41 |
“The fact is that when a childcare provider is spending more time with your kid than you are, they are pretty much a parent. “
Wow. Could you sound any more deranged (or, for that matter, sanctimonious)? Think about what you’re saying: it sounds suspiciously like something someone might say before they try to kidnap a child from daycare or school. “Well, officer, I spend more time with the kid, so it’s my right to take the child.” Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when the mechanic took Jerry’s Saab.
I’m glad you’re not a parent – you’re a whack-job.
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January 17th 2010 - 20:37:27 |
The funny thing is, I don’t have to deal with you.
Your inaccurate, insulting and off-base comments speak for themselves.
You have no clue as to what you’re talking about, and yet you think you know everything. It is amusing.
In response to mooshu who said:
Whether we choose to have kids or not is not of your concern. Neither is where I work/have worked. Hell, we might adopt to make this world a smoother place to co-exist in. Who knows? Giving birth is not the end-all, I see.
There are daycares in town who take infants, beginning at 12 months or sooner, and their hours are 7:00 AM until 7:00 PM. Their directors themselves have told me that a good percentage of babies are dropped off for their entire shift.
But why not tell me, oceanbloo, which daycares and schools you’ve worked for to back your information up? Actually, have you even worked for a local daycare or school? (Yeah, isn’t the former a really stupid question?)
For the sake of your sanity, I ask that you buzz off of my comments. Because no matter how you feel, I fully intend to express an opinion wherever I see fit. So deal with me.
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January 17th 2010 - 20:39:35 |
For those folks actually seeking information on Stevens, I would like to apologize for my role in this now hijacked thread. I won’t be adding any more to it.
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January 18th 2010 - 00:55:05 |
Yep. Because resulting in playing the role of a parent to kids who are otherwise neglected is the exact same thing as kidnapping. Great mentality there.
And you call me a whack-job? Dude, I wasn’t disappointed in you before. However, I think I’ve changed my mind. To me, you’ve officially joined the duo of seemingly menopausal mothers on this thread. Congrats.
In response to emarche who said:
Wow. Could you sound any more deranged (or, for that matter, sanctimonious)? Think about what you’re saying: it sounds suspiciously like something someone might say before they try to kidnap a child from daycare or school. “Well, officer, I spend more time with the kid, so it’s my right to take the child.” Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode when the mechanic took Jerry’s Saab.
I’m glad you’re not a parent – you’re a whack-job.
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January 18th 2010 - 00:55:45 |
Thank you. I was off by about a half-hour, but thank you.
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January 18th 2010 - 09:04:09 |
They are open for so many hours because not every family works the same exact hours.
My child is in day care and no one would say she is neglected, not my mother-in-law, not my friend that used to work for DYFUS in Hudson county, not my neighbors.
She is happy, friendly, caring, inquisitive, little girl.
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January 18th 2010 - 09:05:46 |
Oh and Mooshu,
Why not spell out what county you worked in, since it is so relevant. Or is it just smoke?
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January 18th 2010 - 11:52:16 |
Sigh. H-u-d-s-o-n. Happy?
It’s not smoke. You self-righteous parents think that everyone else who isn’t a parent is wrong and that you’re in an exclusive club all by yourselves. And, er, you’re not.
Truth hurts.
Oh, and Happy MLK Jr. Day, Journey!
In response to Journey who said:
Why not spell out what county you worked in, since it is so relevant. Or is it just smoke?
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January 19th 2010 - 18:10:45 |
Hey folks,
You don’t need to spend obscene amounts of money for your toddler to go to daycare/school. Let me emphasize that this school is BU#$%IT. Milesquare is a much better program than Stevens (and costs much less as well). My daughter has thrived at Milesquare. There is nothing wrong with sending your child to daycare/pre-school. The reality is that if you don’t send your kid to at least pre-school, they are pretty much screwed in kindergarten. They will likely be both academically and socially behind children who had prior schooling. It’s not like 25 years ago, where it didn’t much matter. Times have changed. That is just the way it is. Please note that I am not bashing people who choose to keep their children home, that’s your thing. I just choose not to do that.
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January 20th 2010 - 19:49:35 |
Mooshu,
Your response is a bit harsh. There are some parents that can barely make ends meet and have no choice but to put their children in child care for an extended period of time. I’m sure the parents don’t like to do it, but some people have limited options. By the way, I don’t know of any facility that allows a child to stay for 12 hours, that’s a little off base.
In response to mooshu who said:
Yep, that’s quality parenting right there.
Own up to your responsibilities. I know parents who struggle and still manage to survive without sending their two-year-olds to daycare all damn day. It’s called being smart with their money.
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January 20th 2010 - 23:09:38 |
The reality to be likely screwed in kintegarten? whose reality?
Likely academically and socially behind? “This is just the way it is”. Wow sounds like the Koolaid mentality and get that last seat on the bus that drives this crazy wanna be bubble economy. Very sad mentality at that. And certaainly throwing in the argument ” not like 25 years ago” negates any possibility of giving live example of successes. How frightful to live in your mind. Your child is being raised on fear.
In response to Dperez who said:
You don’t need to spend obscene amounts of money for your toddler to go to daycare/school. Let me emphasize that this school is BU#$%IT. Milesquare is a much better program than Stevens (and costs much less as well). My daughter has thrived at Milesquare. There is nothing wrong with sending your child to daycare/pre-school. The reality is that if you don’t send your kid to at least pre-school, they are pretty much screwed in kindergarten. They will likely be both academically and socially behind children who had prior schooling. It’s not like 25 years ago, where it didn’t much matter. Times have changed. That is just the way it is. Please note that I am not bashing people who choose to keep their children home, that’s your thing. I just choose not to do that.
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January 20th 2010 - 23:27:00 |
I can’t feel sorry for you because you’re not the only family walking around with financial setbacks.
There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family. If you’re so proud that you opt to live in a town you can barely afford, I can’t feel sorry for you. I can’t feel sorry because my parents struggled as well, and unless they were out of their gourds, they’d have never lived in a pricey town.
I grew up in an inner-city, also minutes from Manhattan. I attended public schools until I entered high school because otherwise I’d have been sent to a nasty school within our radius. Private high schools were far, far, far, far cheaper than our preschools, so I attended one. Think: just under 20% OF what local, private institutions charge to play with blocks with 3-year-olds. That’s what it cost before financial aid options.
I turned out just fine.
In response to Dperez who said:
Your response is a bit harsh. There are some parents that can barely make ends meet and have no choice but to put their children in child care for an extended period of time. I’m sure the parents don’t like to do it, but some people have limited options. By the way, I don’t know of any facility that allows a child to stay for 12 hours, that’s a little off base.
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January 21st 2010 - 09:37:19 |
“There are things we all need to think about before starting or raising a family.”
Wow. What an incredible insight. Have you ever thought about writing a book? Or lecturing? Or – dare I dream – becoming a parent? Nah, you wouldn’t do that. Maybe you can’t do that. If so: I’m sorry. Perhaps that’s why you’re so bitter about other parents? It’s ok. As you love to remind us, you do your part helping out with other people’s kids.
But as far as the whole you ‘turned out just fine’ thing goes? No, you turned out to be a sanctimonious ass with an at-best-tenuous grip on reality.
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January 21st 2010 - 09:58:13 |
Might I suggest a course in anger management.
In response to Dperez who said:
You don’t need to spend obscene amounts of money for your toddler to go to daycare/school. Let me emphasize that this school is BU#$%IT. Milesquare is a much better program than Stevens (and costs much less as well). My daughter has thrived at Milesquare. There is nothing wrong with sending your child to daycare/pre-school. The reality is that if you don’t send your kid to at least pre-school, they are pretty much screwed in kindergarten. They will likely be both academically and socially behind children who had prior schooling. It’s not like 25 years ago, where it didn’t much matter. Times have changed. That is just the way it is. Please note that I am not bashing people who choose to keep their children home, that’s your thing. I just choose not to do that.
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January 21st 2010 - 12:39:50 |
Spoken like a real baby. Well, since you insist, I’d much rather never be a parent than to join the ridiculously clueless, exclusive parenting club you represent if I were offered one of the two choices.
I’ve stated the obvious, I wasn’t trying to be your guru. Parenting is a tremendous, constant commitment, and I can’t deny the cluster that makes things more and more difficult because they’re “busy” or “fabulous” (really, entitled) to become involved in the lives of their children.
At this point, I’m very happy doing what I do. Among other things, I work with families I’m comfortable with, who live a balanced lifestyle, and who treat me well. But, really, don’t worry about what I do for a living. Not that your arrogant self cares, but I grew up very quickly, in a kind of reality you’d probably pee your pants in. So you can pretty much stick your interpretation of my grip on reality up your…
What matters now is that I feel and am successful. Happy, too. How’s that for ya’?
In response to emarche who said:
Wow. What an incredible insight. Have you ever thought about writing a book? Or lecturing? Or – dare I dream – becoming a parent? Nah, you wouldn’t do that. Maybe you can’t do that. If so: I’m sorry. Perhaps that’s why you’re so bitter about other parents? It’s ok. As you love to remind us, you do your part helping out with other people’s kids.
But as far as the whole you ‘turned out just fine’ thing goes? No, you turned out to be a sanctimonious ass with an at-best-tenuous grip on reality.
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