Another church turned condo in Hoboken

On second thought…

We recently shed some light on these “church condo conversions” in Hoboken, and how they can be quite fugly.

But considering that the developer was essentially forced to “preserve” in some capacity – they did a pretty damn good job working with what they had. Definitely more unique that almost every other cookie cutter condo building in Hoboken.

It’s still quite annoying that others can tell you what to do with your own private property. Who they hell are these people? Everyone clamors for “hope and change,” then want to cherry-pick what they feel like keeping the same. So stupid.

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Oh boy, Church condo conversion in Hoboken botches sidewalk!

10/28/2014 Update:

This is a bizarre “accident waiting to happen” here in Hoboken. That Bethesda Church turned condo apparently comes with a ridiculously ass-backwards design for the sidewalk too, as Hoboken resident Eduardo explains:

“I walk by the church turned condo on Willow and 7th and found this unbelievable. I’m all for a couple extra trees but what the zoning board allowed is ridiculous. The sidewalk is extremely narrow now and they put up fences so you are literally squeezing and bumping into anyone that is on the sidewalk with you. My two kids, who are just 8 and 5, barely fit with all the fencing and diminished sidewalk! Also, if anyone is walking with a stroller or a dog there is no way that they both fit on the sidewalk. I always thought that the sidewalk had to be at least 6ft wide but that extra row of trees cuts it down.”

Not in Hoboken apparently if you know the right people on the right municipal boards!

Narrow sidewalk at church turned condo in Hoboken NJ

(What morons would approve this design in Hoboken?)

Hoboken trend continues: Church turned condo on Willow

4/21/2014 Update:

Continuing the documentation of the Hoboken trend of “church turned condo,” this time at 707 Willow Ave., as the Bethesda Christian Church (Spanish) is getting converted into condo.

Minervini Vandermark Architecture is responsible for the design (rendering below on left).

Again, doesn’t that look kind of weird? If you’re not going to preserve the entire structure, why bother keeping the “mask” on?

It’s not like this church had groundbreaking design to begin with, and it’s VERY FAR from a St. Patrick’s Cathedral that’s for sure.

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9th Street Church turned condo – A Hoboken trend

10/1/2013 Update:

You ever wonder why this seems to happen in Hoboken? Church after church gets converted to residential housing. Two we talked about recently were The Abbey on Hudson as well as The Vestry on Bloomfield. The latest church turned condo is the Spanish Seventh Day Adventist at 9th & Bloomfield which was recently sold.

Why are some “churches” suffering to the point where they get sold? Meanwhile there are probably half a dozen new modern “churches” that have popped up recently (but without the magnificient buildings churches typically are housed in).

And why does our useless “historical preservation” committee insist they stay churches on the outside only without keeping them religious institutions? Seems kind of shallow. If it’s no longer a church, why bother lying about it? Make it look like the rest of the neighborhood. Just an idea…

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Converting Hoboken churches into condos

3/13/2008:

The long-vacant Church of Christ, Scientist at 829 Bloomfield Street is now being converted to condos! (The Vestry opened in 2013.)

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A father/daughter team recently bought the property. Kate and Marshall B. Tycher had a neighborhood meeting last week to advise area residents what their plans were with the property. Marshall Tycher, from Short Hills, NJ, is a principal at Roseland Properties, who have played a big role in developing the waterfront near the Port Imperial Ferry area in Weehawken and West New York. He’s also a big political campaign contributor as well.

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They currently have permits to build 6 units, but claim they need to make it 8 units to be economically feasible.

Residents are a bit concerned with more competition for parking spots in the area, but welcome the restoration of the deteriorating church.

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24 Comments on "Another church turned condo in Hoboken"

Kyle J Kelly
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Kyle J Kelly

I like the look of the condos on 9th.

animal_lover
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animal_lover

I guess the Zoning Board is Zimmer appointed too. I asked other about this disappearing sidewalk phenomena on Washington St and they confirmed it is true. There is barely enough room to pass and if my dog turn its head slightly, his head is in a diners plate.

HomeTeam
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HomeTeam

I know this may come as a shock to the entitled parents and their SUV buggies and precious children, but you don’t have to walk three across on the sidewalk. In fact, most considerate people will walk single file in tight or busy sections so people can walk and pass in both directions. I know that is a shocking statement for the “entilearents”, but consideration for others can be done successfully.

Joefeds
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Joefeds

I cringed the first time I saw 707 Willow. Its like the architect said “fuck your church and your zoning laws.” These people need condos with luxury appliances, not a church.

TrueHobokenite
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TrueHobokenite

You know what would be really nice? If one of these fancy developers would build some REAL ‘Affordable housing’ for us struggling WORKING families! Church Towers used to be considered ‘affordable housing’ but as everyone knows, that ended a long time ago. Oh sure! It’s possible to get an apartment there! As long as you have a couple of thousand dollars to ::ahem:: secure one.

I was born and raised in Hoboken and lived here most of my life. I experienced every milestone here. Baptism, Communion, Confirmation, HHS graduate, etc. I work full time in Hoboken, but unfortunately I don’t make 100k or more to be able to afford to come back. I’m just a hard working single mom with 2 kids, one of whom is away at college.

Hoboken was an awesome town to grow up in, and it still is! It’s just too bad that those of us who grew up here and really love this town, can’t afford to come back to our roots. 😕

animal_lover
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animal_lover

The you have it – another anecdotal on displacement. Hoboken should be so proud![quote comment=”223002″]You know what would be really nice? If one of these fancy developers would build some REAL ‘Affordable housing’ for us struggling WORKING families! Church Towers used to be considered ‘affordable housing’ but as everyone knows, that ended a long time ago. Oh sure! It’s possible to get an apartment there! As long as you have a couple of thousand dollars to ::ahem:: secure one. I was born and raised in Hoboken and lived here most of my life. I experienced every milestone here. Baptism, Communion, Confirmation, HHS graduate, etc. I work full time in Hoboken, but unfortunately I don’t make 100k or more to be able to afford to come back. I’m just a hard working single mom with 2 kids, one of whom is away at college.Hoboken was an awesome town to grow up in, and it still is! It’s just too bad that those of us who grew up here and really love this town, can’t afford to come back to our roots. [/quote]

Drex357
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Drex357
I don’t get “displacement.” It sounds like you left and wish now you could come back, but I am not sure tha’s displacement, right? In order to be displaced you either owned and sold or rented and were booted. If the former, you made a choice to take the money and run, and just mis-predicted that the market had topped out when in fact it was just starting to ascend (I made that mistake a few times myself). Or else you were renting and got evicted, actually or constructively, let’s say (rent increased beyond reason) but if you are a single mom making under say $50k/annum with 2 kids, can’t you qualify for the subsidized housing that’s already here? I’ve been priced out of a few places and it sux, but that’s the market, isn’t it? And if Hoboken was stuck in the 70’s, it’d be a far different place than it is now. I don’t know, I guess I have never thought I was entitled to continue to live where I grew up, so I have moved around a bit (all around the country actually) and I don’t think I am the worse for it. And in every case, the property values are way, way in excess of what it cost when I was there, so I got no choice but to move along. And there are bazillions more apartments now (and bazillions less jobs) due to the conversion of all the commercial/industrial in the north/northwest quad. But at… Read more »
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