Second-rate landscaping?

Second-rate landscaping continues at Elysian Park

Resident Ivonne recently noticed some (once again) second-rate landscaping in Hoboken. This time at Elysian Park.

“Apparently Hoboken has hired a landscape architect who feels it is okay to plant shrubs on top of large tree roots coming out of the ground. I guess he does not take pride in his work.”

And who puts in all new plant material in a row? Absolutely no creativity or design incorporated.” (“You pay for what you get.”)

second-rate landscaping at Elysian Park Hoboken NJ

Hoboken Poop Offenders make life rough

“And ever since work began at Elysian Park, the grass there has been converted into the largest dog litter-field in Hoboken. Dog owners are allowing their dogs to urinate and defecate directly on the grass at all times of the day. I complained because small children play there, but nothing has been done.”

Hoboken Poop Offender Elysian Park

Why does Hoboken have second-rate landscaping?

5/29/2014 Update:

You ever wonder what kind of “services” we get for the money here in Hoboken? Do winning bidders for tasks like garbage collection or snow plowing just cut corners without any oversight from the city? Another thing to look at is the somewhat second-rate landscaping we apparently have.

As you can see below – the area around Sinatra Park recently got a “refresh” with new plants, etc.

new shrubs sinatra park hoboken NJ

Cheap shrubs seem to die pretty quickly

However – it makes you wonder how long these will last. Because as you might recall, the grass at Pier C Park pretty much died instantly. And now the new shrubs around the dog run at Sinatra Park are also turning brown. Are they getting these shrubs at a discount from China or something? Even if you try and blame dogs – then perhaps putting plants in close proximity to thousands of gallons of sour urine each week maybe isn’t such a bright idea.

We’ll see how long the new stuff lasts before it deteriorates.

dying shrubs at sinatra park in Hoboken NJ

10 Responses

  1. rover says:

    Not expecting the city to perform well is the first step. Finding competent individuals is the next step. Unfortunately, we never seem to make that big second step. Ever.

  2. animal_lover says:

    I also see kids peeing in Elysian park – with their parents encouraging them to do their business in the grass.

    • rhall1124 says:

      I’m going to call bullshit on that one. I find it highly unlikely that parents were encouraging children to pee on the grass. [quote comment=”223294″]I also see kids peeing in Elysian park – with their parents encouraging them to do their business in the grass.[/quote]

      • Krill says:

        I call bullshit on your bullshit. Every day of the spring and summer I see some weak bladdered toddler squirting much to the amusement of the moms. How cute. Lets post to facebook and compare cute notes about our adorable kids. I’d send some photos in but would get prosecuted for child endangerment or other crock of a charge.[quote comment=”223299″]I’m going to call bullshit on that one. I find it highly unlikely that parents were encouraging children to pee on the grass.

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  3. iforgotmymantra says:

    That first picture displayed hardly even looks like landscaping- how can they just plant trees there on the roots in a straight line? And are they serious they will not weed and clean up here? What a mess.

  4. sassy lassie says:

    I have to agree with Krill. I have seen parents allow kids to pee in the park. And I once even saw a nanny let a grade school age kid do #2 not 50 feet from Hudson Street on the lawn. Well, I thought I’d seen it all at Elysian but even that flabbergasted me.

    • animal_lover says:

      The real rub is that the boys I have seen peeing were resisting the instructions of a parent to drop trough and pee in public. Each boy was obedient and met his parents demands.[quote comment=”223311″]I have to agree with Krill. I have seen parents allow kids to pee in the park. And I once even saw a nanny let a grade school age kid do #2 not 50 feet from Hudson Street on the lawn. Well, I thought I’d seen it all at Elysian but even that flabbergasted me.[/quote]

      • sunnybrook says:

        On its face, someone describing children dropping a deuce in an upscale Hoboken city park might be shocking, yet I must say this is quite par for the course based on the folks I’ve seen in the area.

        You regularly have couples wheeling double/triple/quadruple wide or stacked strollers down the street and into stores without a care in the world on who might be impacted. These folks are so self absorbed it’s dumbfounding and frankly (or a bit sadly), I’m used to it.

        The offending house-holds in question, who i suspect primarily live in Maxwell, Shipyard, or other comprable places make $500K+/yr. on average and will not change their behavior – it’s all about them, what’s easiest, and societal norms will not impact what they do. Get used to it – the way of the world unfortunately.[quote comment=”223312″]The real rub is that the boys I have seen peeing were resisting the instructions of a parent to drop trough and pee in public. Each boy was obedient and met his parents demands.[/quote]

      • briank says:

        So the only people with poor behaving children live in a certain building and make $500k? Well that is quite the assumption. In work in sales covering Hudson County ad see terrible clueless behavior from lots of low income people in JC, UC, etc. Would it be appropriate for me to assume that all low income Spanish speaking people have terribly behaving kids? Please. Your statement is so full of $hit it’s ridiculous. A couple people, making an unknown amount of money and living in unknown apartment building, let their kid pee in the park and now an emoter demographic is to blame? Nice![quote comment=”223314″]On its face, someone describing children dropping a deuce in an upscale Hoboken city park might be shocking, yet I must say this is quite par for the course based on the folks I’ve seen in the area.You regularly have couples wheeling double/triple/quadruple wide or stacked strollers down the street and into stores without a care in the world on who might be impacted. These folks are so self absorbed it’s dumbfounding and frankly (or a bit sadly), I’m used to it.The offending house-holds in question, who i suspect primarily live in Maxwell, Shipyard, or other comprable places make $500K+/yr. on average and will not change their behavior – it’s all about them, what’s easiest, and societal norms will not impact what they do. Get used to it – the way of the world unfortunately.[/quote]

      • animal_lover says:

        Nay, you need to stop it in its tracks and not look the other way. Entitlement breeds horrible behaviors not nearly comparable to a mere gauche class-type faux pas.[quote comment=”223315″]So the only people with poor behaving children live in a certain building and make $500k? Well that is quite the assumption. In work in sales covering Hudson County ad see terrible clueless behavior from lots of low income people in JC, UC, etc. Would it be appropriate for me to assume that all low income Spanish speaking people have terribly behaving kids? Please. Your statement is so full of $hit it’s ridiculous. A couple people, making an unknown amount of money and living in unknown apartment building, let their kid pee in the park and now an emoter demographic is to blame? Nice![/quote]

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