Hoboken Bowling Alley & More

No bowling alley for Hoboken; NW area will remain a shit hole

Hoboken denies bowling alleyLast night, to a packed room – the Zoning Board denied a local developer the go ahead on what would have been the most exciting “progress” Hoboken has seen in a very long time. A mixed used project, complete with bowling alley, performance venue, various athletics facilities, residential living, some open space – and most importantly: some LIFE injected into the otherwise dreary NW area of the city.

Even better – a group of the smartest business owners were behind it (the chaps who run the wildly successful Pilsener Haus & Biergarten).

Peter Cunningham is mostly responsible for this travesty. They offered ZERO logical reasons why the application (which costs $80,000 to apply for) was denied. I say logical because they did offer bullshit reasons that made no sense – especially when there was no public opposition.

So now – instead of a vibrant project (which was overwhelmingly supported by the entire community, including the Fund for a Better Waterfront AND the Quality of Life Coalition), the developer has no other choice than to proceed with what IS approved: Industrial tenants.

Can’t blame a business owner wanting to make a profit, right? That’s the purpose! But when smart business owners start leaving Hoboken for better cities, and we just end up with chain stores – you can thank our lovely “Mayor.”

The board has the “power” to reverse their decision and approve this project right NOW. But what they’ve done instead is let that area remain without a pulse – a dangerous place at night, with more car burglaries by the week. I wonder how those jerkoff board members will feel when rapes and stabbings start trending higher in that area?

“Moving Hoboken Ahead,” my ass.

Zimmer and Cunningham prevent bowling alley in Hoboken NJ

How cool would a Hoboken Bowling alley be?

5/13/2014:

A Hoboken Bowling Alley has been on the list of “Hoboken Wants” forever. (That, along with others like a Taco Bell, Strip Club, Trader Jo’s, Whole Foods, etc.)

Well one Hoboken developer (Hany Ahmed), along with the proprietors of the Pilsener Haus & Biergarten have a plan to make that 10-pin dream a reality.

Hoboken Bowling coming soon

(You might say this scene above probably won’t pan out exactly like that…)

Breathing life into NW Hoboken: Bowling Alley, Rock-climbing gym

Up for a zoning “variance” next week, this parcel of land on Jefferson Street between 13th & 14th currently houses a mostly vacant industrial set of buildings. There is no residential property anywhere on the blocks immediately surrounding it.

Also presently under “remediation” is the 14th Street Viaduct, which once complete, a dog run and some basketball courts will abut the property to the north.

Hoboken Bowling Alley Rock Climbing Gym

Industrial warehouse + no columns = perfect match for bowling

Upon trying to figure out what could be done with this building, Ahmed noticed the unique construction of this “warehouse,” which was once used to for some kind of manufacturing (and still has inside a large crane apparatus in the rafters). The northern building, with it’s 200′ x 75′ footprint has no center columns, but instead is wide open inside, nearly four-stories in height, “first thing you want to do is play a game of stickball,” Ahmed said.

Besides stickball, what kind of business would benefit from an expansive, open layout? A bowling alley.

Initial concepts have up to 18 lanes, with room for a bar, restaurant as well as a live-performance venue – which Hoboken is severely lacking in – especially since Maxwell’s abandoned the Mile Square.

On the south end of this lot – the developer is courting The Gravity Vault, a rock-climbing “fitness” outfit who has three locations in New Jersey already. The building would be retro-fitted with a 40-foot wall that changes weekly to “challenge” climbers, as well as smaller walls for the kiddies.

And to round out the plan would be a 12 story residential structure (with parking) in the middle.

There will be a public meeting TONIGHT at 7pm over at the Kolo Klub uptown. Beer, soda and pretzels will be provided for those who attend. Should be around one hour long.

This project is going in front of the Hoboken Zoning Board next week. As you may know, things like “Master Plans” and “expediency” do not rhyme well in Hoboken – which is why you need to leave “vision and progress” to intelligent business owners instead.

Would you support a novel and interesting proposal like this in Hoboken?

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13 Comments on "Hoboken Bowling Alley & More"


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showme789
1 year 2 months ago

The real story here may very well be not the denial of the bowling alley but rather the seemingly routine approval of projects being built by the “favored developers” in town. Take a look around. The same developers seem to get height variances whenever requested. If you want to build 10 stories above the permitted limit, put a green roof on it and make sure you support the Mayor’s bid for re-election. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that the reason for killing the Rockefeller projects was simply to get them out of the way so that the “favored developer” could pick up the property at a huge discount. Perhaps someone didn’t want the bowling alley built in the hopes of getting their greedy little hands on the property. This kind of thing isn’t new. It’s been the trademark of questionable political decisions for ages. It usually ends with a perp walk around the federal building. Let’s see if anyone is paying attention to the development trends in town.

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sunnybrook
1 year 2 months ago

Maybe it’s just me, but at a minimum at least the city could clean up the roads in this area – 15th street is a general disaster all the way from Willow to Madison and am constantly seeing cars broken down with flat tires.

Anyone ever taking a left from 15th south onto Madison must know what I’m referring to.

The mind boggling thing is that NYC seems to have paved many of their north/south avenues so far this year, yet Hoboken’s inept government can’t even manage to figure out how to pave Washington St. in the decrepit state it’s in…let alone any other streets. I’d venture a guess to say Washington hasn’t been paved in 20 years.

Really makes me wonder where the millions in property taxes are going – very disturbing.

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john14
1 year 2 months ago

This is what happens when people picked last for kickball as kids have decision making capabilities in city government.

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Gavriel
1 year 3 months ago

Why would anyone hate a live music space or recreational sport like bowling? Because it brings undesirables to town? Bet you don’t have a solid bone in your spine because you have no issue with homeless shelters or low income housing. What a pack of pathetic pussies this town has become. 👿

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hobokenlady
1 year 3 months ago

The rock climbing and bowling concept sound like a great idea. The live performance venue piece is troubling. Live performances will create a significant amount of noise and drive hundreds to thousands of people (from local and nearby cities) to our already congested town. Given that Hoboken doesn’t have public transportation to get these people in and out of that area efficiently, traffic will be a nightmare and where will they park? Given that the vast majority of the parking in that venue will be allocated for residents of the new residential building, people will have to resort to aimless driving for street and illegal parking. Getting in and out of town any time there is a concert will be utter chaos. I would not be happy.

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HomeTeam
1 year 3 months ago

The venue would probably be max 500 people. This isn’t Springsteen at Giant’s Stadium.[quote comment=”223159″]The rock climbing and bowling concept sound like a great idea. The live performance venue piece is troubling. Live performances will create a significant amount of noise and drive hundreds to thousands of people (from local and nearby cities) to our already congested town. Given that Hoboken doesn’t have public transportation to get these people in and out of that area efficiently, traffic will be a nightmare and where will they park? Given that the vast majority of the parking in that venue will be allocated for residents of the new residential building, people will have to resort to aimless driving for street and illegal parking. Getting in and out of town any time there is a concert will be utter chaos. I would not be happy.[/quote]

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hobokenlady
1 year 3 months ago

500 is still a lot of people, it’s not like we are in Brooklyn where people can hop in and out of the subway to pop into Brooklyn Bowl without an impact to the community. [quote comment=”223179″]The venue would probably be max 500 people. This isn’t Springsteen at Giant’s Stadium.[/quote]

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HomeTeam
1 year 3 months ago

True, the 250 of Maxwells often resulted in widespread rioting, looting and fire.[quote comment=”223184″]500 is still a lot of people, it’s not like we are in Brooklyn where people can hop in and out of the subway to pop into Brooklyn Bowl without an impact to the community.[/quote]

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hobokenlady
1 year 3 months ago

Where did I state rioting, looting and fire? My concern is with noise and traffic. Thank you for bringing up Maxwell’s as that further strengthens my argument, When Justin Timberlake came to Maxwells this past summer, thousands swarmed Washington Street and police had to be called to manage the crowd. Brooklyn Bowl has had Kanye West, Guns N Roses, etc, sure to drive a sizeable crowd that Hoboken is not equipped to manage. [quote comment=”223186″]True, the 250 of Maxwells often resulted in widespread rioting, looting and fire.[/quote]

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HomeTeam
1 year 3 months ago

So you would know that the Timberlake incident was not the fault of Maxwells the music venue, which had closed weeks earlier, but of Target and the city agency that issued the filming permits.

Brooklyn Bowl, while I dislike Peter Shapiro intensely, is conscious of their neighbors and go through great lengths to be good neighbors. I have actually attended one of the events you mention and there were no ticketless fans rioting and gate crashing ala the Grateful Dead in 1995, just orderly fans attending a show and then leaving. Also, those “big acts” are very rareand exclusive events.

[quote comment=”223191″]Where did I state rioting, looting and fire? My concern is with noise and traffic. Thank you for bringing up Maxwell’s as that further strengthens my argument, When Justin Timberlake came to Maxwells this past summer, thousands swarmed Washington Street and police had to be called to manage the crowd. Brooklyn Bowl has had Kanye West, Guns N Roses, etc, sure to drive a sizeable crowd that Hoboken is not equipped to manage.[/quote]

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CaitE
1 year 3 months ago

this is a HORRIBLE idea! For residents in this area we already deal with underage kids hanging out all over the place, messing up properties…. the LAST thing we need is a venue for them to hang out late at night…. bowling alleys go in and out of demand and the space could have other family friendly attractions[quote comment=”223159″]The rock climbing and bowling concept sound like a great idea. The live performance venue piece is troubling. Live performances will create a significant amount of noise and drive hundreds to thousands of people (from local and nearby cities) to our already congested town. Given that Hoboken doesn’t have public transportation to get these people in and out of that area efficiently, traffic will be a nightmare and where will they park? Given that the vast majority of the parking in that venue will be allocated for residents of the new residential building, people will have to resort to aimless driving for street and illegal parking. Getting in and out of town any time there is a concert will be utter chaos. I would not be happy.[/quote]