Republican Debate Tonight

1/10/2008:

Since Tutta Pasta’s only has limited room at tonight’s “Upstairs at Danny’s” Comedy Show (featuring Artie Lange), and it’s not being simulcast on live TV, you’ll probably be forced to do something else instead.

There are plenty of other things to do, such at Happy Hour at various bars (like $2 & $3 drinks all night at Duffy’s, or $2 off all drinks from 5-7pm at Quay’s, or 1/2 priced food & martinis for Ladies at Rogo’s, even free wine!, and the usual “Thirsty Thursday” over at The Shannonsee ad here on Hoboken411.)

Since I’m not drinking for a while, I’ll resist temptation and watch tonight’s Republican Debate between six presidential hopefuls on TV instead. This will be the first occasion I’m setting aside some actual time to check out some national politics. I’m glad they allowed this many candidates (not just the front-runners.) To be invited, candidates must have placed in the top 5 positions in the New Hampshire poll — McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Giuliani and Paul — or be polling at least 5 percent nationally, such as Thompson.

It will be broadcast at 9pm on FOX. Is anyone going to watch this, or are all the readers on Hoboken411 Democrats? (see poll to the left)

Oh, I was invited to the Comedy Show tonight, but I declined (for reasons I can’t divulge here!)

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brian_g
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brian_g

Fair enough. I can’t say that the tax increase of 1993 did or did not have a positive effect on the economy. I can observe the results. That was in response to your still unproven “facts”

matt_72
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[quote comment=”62352″]See here is the problem. I am not claiming that taxes had ANYTHING to do with growth or decline. YOU are making that claim. You have a set of results and one statistical point, tax rates, and come to a conclusion. I have not come to ANY conclusions because the data is inconclusive. It is VERY difficult to determine the ultimate impact of a tax policy on our economy. Actually it is only difficult if you are looking for answer. If you are looking to make a political point, it is very easy. You are claiming that lower taxes are always good, but that simply isn’t the case and anyone this side of Ron Paul should know that. Taxes have been cut twice in the past 8 years and yet, here we are, on the cusp of a recession with millions of Americans facing foreclosure on their homes and the dollar in the toilet. Yet you wish to believe that lower taxes are always good. Believe it or not SOMETIMES you don’t want to pump cash into the economy. I find it ironic that you consider me the wall. I am the one who provided statistical references. You are the one who claims that I hate Bush, which I don’t, that I want higher taxes, which I don’t, and various other assigned beliefs. You feel that simply saying something equals proof. And when evidence to the contrary of your point is presented, you simply ignore it as “outliers” even… Read more »
brian_g
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brian_g
See here is the problem. I am not claiming that taxes had ANYTHING to do with growth or decline. YOU are making that claim. You have a set of results and one statistical point, tax rates, and come to a conclusion. I have not come to ANY conclusions because the data is inconclusive. It is VERY difficult to determine the ultimate impact of a tax policy on our economy. Actually it is only difficult if you are looking for answer. If you are looking to make a political point, it is very easy. You are claiming that lower taxes are always good, but that simply isn’t the case and anyone this side of Ron Paul should know that. Taxes have been cut twice in the past 8 years and yet, here we are, on the cusp of a recession with millions of Americans facing foreclosure on their homes and the dollar in the toilet. Yet you wish to believe that lower taxes are always good. Believe it or not SOMETIMES you don’t want to pump cash into the economy. I find it ironic that you consider me the wall. I am the one who provided statistical references. You are the one who claims that I hate Bush, which I don’t, that I want higher taxes, which I don’t, and various other assigned beliefs. You feel that simply saying something equals proof. And when evidence to the contrary of your point is presented, you simply ignore it as “outliers” even though… Read more »
matt_72
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I will make my comments more readable when you respond for what I asked for. I gave you examples of states that have higher growth rates because of low taxes. I asked for examples of states that have higher growth rates because of higher taxes. Still waiting. Your last attempt was a dismal failure. It was such a failure that you actually proved my case. I don’t see how you can actually look at the data you provided and come to the conclusions you came to. You are using outliers and distortions of the data to support your arguements. Look at the data in its entirety. Look at all the states. Look at them individualy AND regionally. Look at where the growth is and where it isn’t. Compare neighboring states and see who grows by how much and what is their relative tax burden. Look at the top and bottom growth states and see what their relative tax burdens are. Look at each region and see where the growth is and where it isn’t. News flash – states w/ low taxes outperform higher tax states. Your data supports that. No one looking at that map could come to any other conclusion. As for making absolute statements, I wouldn’t call it absolute. It is a firm statement that is grounded in fact. That isn’t to say I advocate anything extreme like abolishing taxes. But I absolutely believe that modest tax cuts stimulate the economy and modest tax increase absolutely dampen economic… Read more »
brian_g
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brian_g

You are the one making an absolute statement. Not I. You asked for examples of states where high tax states were growing at a higher rate than low tax states. I provided that but apparently that doesn’t count. But points from my data sources, that you tried to discredit, DO count when you are using them. That’s convenient.

I give up. Clearly you feel your arguments are correct without the need to prove them.

One request. Could you try and format your comments in a more readable format?

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